Yes, the quote is from Neil DeGrasse Tyson. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> he didn't Neil Tyson DeGrasse say that on comedy central or somewhere? > > Jaime Solorza > Wireless Systems Architect > 915-861-1390 > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Science is true whether or not you believe in it. >> >> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:34 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >>> I used to believe like you. During my teen years, having lots of fun >>> with the opposite sex, I figured abortion was a handy solution to a problem >>> if it cropped up. >>> >>> Then I got married. My wife got pregnant. We went to the first >>> ultrasound. >>> I saw my daughter as the miniature human she was. Stretching her arms >>> and sucking her tumb. All as 16 week. >>> >>> Then I saw the light... >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Josh Reynolds >>> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 12:24 PM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan >>> >>> Sorry CORRECTION, **birth** not conception. >>> >>> I'm feeling groggy from the time shift, and have not had enough coffee. >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Upon natural or medically induced conception. Until then it is an >>>> organism that receives sustenance from the mother's body, thus is part >>>> of the mother - and her decision. You don't have to agree with me, and >>>> that's fine, but you shouldn't force legislation preventing people >>>> from making decisions about their bodies and their children. That's >>>> for them to decide, and they have to live with the choices they make. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Cameron Crum <cc...@wispmon.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> So at what age should state sanctioned murder be stopped, or is all >>>>> just up >>>>> to the individual and their "belief"? >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 14, 2016 1:13 PM, "Bruce Robertson" <br...@pooh.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> No, I want to go back to persecution. It is persecution because you >>>>>> would >>>>>> be trying to carry out the wishes of the boss as you understand them. >>>>>> Not >>>>>> necessarily as I see those wishes. Therefore by supporting >>>>>> legislation that >>>>>> affects the population as a whole, you are imposing your beliefs upon >>>>>> me, >>>>>> against my will. I may have the equally valid belief that the boss >>>>>> upstairs >>>>>> wants us all to accept guidance, but ultimately make decisions for >>>>>> ourselves >>>>>> (and of course take responsibility for those decisions). Someone >>>>>> with such >>>>>> beliefs would only support legislation that would make decisions such >>>>>> as >>>>>> birth control, abortion, etc. completely up to each individual, her >>>>>> conscience, and her relationship with the boss. >>>>>> >>>>>> ~sigh~ I swore I would never get involved in a political or religious >>>>>> discussion. My apologies. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 03/13/2016 09:53 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Nevermind the persecution thing, I didn’t fully read your post >>>>>> properly. >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Chuck McCown >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 10:50 PM >>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan >>>>>> >>>>>> If I have a strong feeling that the guy in the sky that created all >>>>>> of us >>>>>> hates the murder of babies, yes I will try to stop that via >>>>>> legislation. >>>>>> How is that persecution? Just trying to carry out the wishes of the >>>>>> boss. >>>>>> He has promised me a pretty nice apartment if I give it a good try. >>>>>> >>>>>> Persecution? >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Josh Reynolds >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 10:46 PM >>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> So you wish to force your religious beliefs on others via >>>>>> legislation, in >>>>>> a country created to escape persecution from religion? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 13, 2016 11:38 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here is why a churches need to be involved with reproductive care, >>>>>>> contraception, or abortion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you believe there is a God, Creator, Savior etc. >>>>>>> >Then if you believe that entity cares about these things (listed >>>>>>> >above). >>>>>>> >>Then if you believe that the mind of that entity has communicated >>>>>>> its >>>>>>> >> wishes with man. >>>>>>> >>>Then if you believe that those wishes are contained in doctrine of >>>>>>> >>> churches or bodies of scripture. >>>>>>> >>>>Then the church and its doctrine trumps all laws of man. >>>>>>> The church needs to be involved in all facets of life. If you >>>>>>> believe >>>>>>> the above. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can claim to be agnostic or atheistic but a smart person should >>>>>>> hedge >>>>>>> their bets against actually not knowing that they are totally right >>>>>>> about >>>>>>> that. Could be that every time you eat spaghetti you are >>>>>>> committing a >>>>>>> mortal sin. Could be. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For me and mine, I will take my particular flavor of Christianity >>>>>>> and do >>>>>>> my thing, while you do your thing. >>>>>>> But if I have an opportunity to legislate away things I consider >>>>>>> mortal >>>>>>> sins, I will try. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Josh Reynolds >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 6:54 PM >>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why does any church need to be involved with reproductive care, >>>>>>> contraception, or abortion? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Those are medical issues. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2016 6:48 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" < >>>>>>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Actually, my belief is here in the deep south we have a church on >>>>>>>> every >>>>>>>> corner. Let the churches handle it....they are more than capable. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My tax dollars aren't needed for this. (or many other things) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: Ken Hohhof >>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 6:18 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What many people who lose sleep over Planned Parenthood are actually >>>>>>>> upset about is they offer birth control. Some people obsess about >>>>>>>> poor >>>>>>>> people having sex without the punishment of getting pregnant. See >>>>>>>> this if >>>>>>>> you forgot: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh%E2%80%93Sandra_Fluke_controversy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don’t understand how you can be extremely anti-abortion yet also >>>>>>>> extremely anti-contraception. Less unwanted pregnancies = less >>>>>>>> abortions. >>>>>>>> Which is the lesser evil? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think it comes down to some people are obsessed with sex, >>>>>>>> especially >>>>>>>> “other” people having sex. #nosyneighbors #getalife >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Josh Reynolds >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 5:48 PM >>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Did you research that video? You should. It's not what you think. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2016 5:41 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" < >>>>>>>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yah, i'm kind of like Chuck here. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't care about gay marriage. I'm not gay, I know a handful of >>>>>>>>> gay >>>>>>>>> people. Not my cup of tea but the government doesn't have any >>>>>>>>> right telling >>>>>>>>> them what they can or can't do. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Same with adoption for a gay couple - shut up gov'mt. Now, I'm >>>>>>>>> not so >>>>>>>>> sure on that. When I was growing up there were few gay couples >>>>>>>>> who had >>>>>>>>> "come out" and we thought if the girl had a different last name >>>>>>>>> than her >>>>>>>>> mommy we thought that was odd. Quite a bit different now but it >>>>>>>>> could still >>>>>>>>> screw with a kids head in terms of "traditional marriage". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It would be hard to NOT state that traditional marriage has gone to >>>>>>>>> hell in this country. But then again, so many "traditional" >>>>>>>>> things have >>>>>>>>> gone to hell. How many women stay at home and take care of the >>>>>>>>> family while >>>>>>>>> dad goes to work? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am in favor of defunding planned parenthood. The videos pretty >>>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>>> got to me. It's MY TAX DOLLARS. Defund it. There are plenty of >>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>> non-government-funded entities who can do that work. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any tax is bad :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm going to stop there, i will get in trouble... lol >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: Josh Reynolds >>>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 5:02 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> His stances: >>>>>>>>> Gay marriage is wrong >>>>>>>>> He doesn't support adoption for a gay couple >>>>>>>>> Defund planned parenthood >>>>>>>>> Raising corporate tax is bad >>>>>>>>> Voted yes for more sentencing and prosecution for juveniles. >>>>>>>>> Wants to drill in ANWR >>>>>>>>> Voted no on tax credits for renewable energy. >>>>>>>>> Voted no on 4 weeks paid parental leave for federal employees. >>>>>>>>> Votes for PATRIOT act over and over >>>>>>>>> Voted to allow warantless electronic surveillance against us >>>>>>>>> citizens >>>>>>>>> Denied additional funding that would provide expanded child >>>>>>>>> healthcare >>>>>>>>> "Let's build a fence!" >>>>>>>>> Voted NO on reporting / deporting illegal immigrants who received >>>>>>>>> hospital treatment >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Etc. A few things I like him on, but mostly he's a "nope" for me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2016 4:46 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hey, I said I liked him. Just not full on man crush. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I didn’t see how his math added up for the budgets he proposed. >>>>>>>>>> There >>>>>>>>>> were some missing pages where magic happened to balance the >>>>>>>>>> budget. Seemed >>>>>>>>>> like the same old voodoo economics. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So “man crush”, is that like Trump and Putin? At least Putin is >>>>>>>>>> supposedly an 8th degree black belt. He would probably take care >>>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>>> protester himself. If Trump thinks he can bully the Putins of >>>>>>>>>> the world, >>>>>>>>>> I’m not so sure. I think McCain could take him in a fair fight. >>>>>>>>>> Hell, >>>>>>>>>> Bernie could probably take him. I was never fond of Nixon, but >>>>>>>>>> the photo of >>>>>>>>>> the “kitchen debate” with Khrushchev is a treasure. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://spectator.org/articles/41740/how-handle-bully-nixon-vs-khrushchev >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: CBB - Jay Fuller >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 4:19 PM >>>>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have actually followed Paul Ryan since the first time he >>>>>>>>>> appeared on >>>>>>>>>> the national stage. Very impressed with him. Could almost call >>>>>>>>>> him my "man >>>>>>>>>> crush". I'd be interested in hearing what you do not like about >>>>>>>>>> him Ken. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> From: Ken Hohhof >>>>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 2:04 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump's Supporters Love Him Even >>>>>>>>>> More >>>>>>>>>> AfterChicago Violence >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think the "establishment" is missing why people are fed up with >>>>>>>>>> them, I'm >>>>>>>>>> not convinced it's about left or right. If I had to single out >>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>> person >>>>>>>>>> as the poster boy for why the establishment has failed us, it >>>>>>>>>> would be >>>>>>>>>> Mitch >>>>>>>>>> McConnell. All 4 leaders in Congress have only been worried about >>>>>>>>>> their own >>>>>>>>>> power and re-election, but McConnell is the worst of a bad bunch. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I don't agree with Paul Ryan's economics or some of his politics, >>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>> I like >>>>>>>>>> what he has said since being elected Speaker. I would like to >>>>>>>>>> see if >>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>> are just words, or if he would translate them into actions. I >>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>>> we will get to find out, election politics seem to have rendered >>>>>>>>>> him >>>>>>>>>> irrelevant. And Mitch the Turtle would have to be replaced with >>>>>>>>>> someone >>>>>>>>>> actually interested in governing. I wonder what conservative >>>>>>>>>> goals >>>>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>>> have been accomplished in the 7 years Mitch has spent trying to >>>>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>>>> Obama >>>>>>>>>> fail no matter how much damage it causes. Tort reform? >>>>>>>>>> Modifications >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> Obamacare? Fix sequestration? Tax reform? Immigration reform? >>>>>>>>>> Mitch >>>>>>>>>> doesn't care. Mitch cares about Mitch. That's the problem with >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> establishment, they spend all their effort on getting elected and >>>>>>>>>> staying in >>>>>>>>>> power, they don't even pretend to do their job. And let me be >>>>>>>>>> clear, >>>>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>>> not saying Pelosi, Reid and Boehner were much better, it's just >>>>>>>>>> McConnell is >>>>>>>>>> the most blatant hack of the bunch, every time I see him on TV I >>>>>>>>>> feel >>>>>>>>>> he is >>>>>>>>>> giving me the finger. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am probably fooling myself that Paul Ryan would be different, >>>>>>>>>> but I >>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>> think we'll find out. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: Bill Prince >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 1:40 PM >>>>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump's Supporters Love Him Even >>>>>>>>>> More >>>>>>>>>> After >>>>>>>>>> Chicago Violence >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> IMO, Obama moved right, and the Republicans moved further to the >>>>>>>>>> right. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 3/13/2016 6:01 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > Obama moved right as much as the Republicans moved left. > >>>>>>>>>> Everybody's >>>>>>>>>> > idea >>>>>>>>>> > of compromise these days is you come to where I am and I'll >>>>>>>>>> make a >>>>>>>>>> > deal. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> !DSPAM:2,56e643e613941725215664! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >> >
