Well, it's not every day I get offered a speaking spot on AFMUG, so I will happily take the opportunity!

Site is at https://sonar.software, there is a pricing calculator on the front page if you want to run the numbers.

The current release has a complete billing system (with usage based billing) and CRM, inventory management, IPv4+IPv6 IPAM, various provisioning options (DHCP, RADIUS, MikroTik, Procera, Telrad), a ticketing system, and a bunch of the typical things you'd expect (Form 477 generator, elevation profiles, mapping, etc.) Next release will have a field management/scheduling system, which is coming out next month. We're launching a CDR rating engine pretty soon, and the release after that will be a network monitoring module, which will bring us to 1.0. After that, we have a massive list of stuff to add to improve on current features, as well as adding some new ones I haven't talked about yet. We'll be at 1.0 by WISPAPALOOZA.

We have a lot of fairly unique features I think - for example, a full REST API (https://sonar.software/apidoc/) which has already been used by a lot of people to build some pretty cool stuff. We also have a GitHub account at https://github.com/sonarsoftware that has a bunch of things we've built to interface with the API that we give away for free, including a customer portal you can download and customize to your hearts content.

There's a lot more neat stuff we have built in.. full real time search of all your customer/network data, an interface completely optimized for mobile devices, billing that scales to millions of accounts, as well as a lot of little features that I think are pretty unique (as a single example, you can configure Sonar to track whenever a customer views an email Sonar sends, so that you can see if they viewed a ticket response, or looked at their bill.)

Bunch of videos at https://sonar.software/casts if you want to check it out - some of them are of a fairly old version of Sonar, but they should give you a good idea of how it works and what it does. I'll be updating them all once we hit 1.0. System is fully documented internally - each page has documentation available while you're logged in. If you want to check it out, go to https://sonar.software/home, create an account, and you can have your own Sonar instance to play with in <90 seconds.

On 8/19/2016 10:08 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Tell us more.  Price, capabilities, URL etc.
*From:* Simon Westlake <mailto:simon@sonar.software>
*Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 8:54 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sonar
Yes, it's been available since early this year. You can sign up on the site and get immediate access.

On 8/19/2016 9:45 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Is anything released?
*From:* Jon Bruce <mailto:jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com>
*Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 8:44 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DHCP option 82 + Canopy + Powercode
Yes, Sonar. It's looking really good.


On 8/19/2016 10:21 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
WRT PC, wasn’t Simon working on something that possibly could be a competitor?
*From:* Jon Bruce <mailto:jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com>
*Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 8:07 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DHCP option 82 + Canopy + Powercode
We're using PC with DHCP for management of SMs and for public IPs. Each is on it's own VLAN and IPs are given out by PC based on MAC address.

PC can do RADIUS and has it (sort of half, almost, kinda) built in but I haven't made it work (yet). Calling support will only leave you curled up in a ball, crying.

Under Network -> Servers, there is RADIUS and Canopy RADIUS. I asked once what the difference was, what they were meant to do differently and why there are two and was met with documentation removed from their site and several support calls and emails ignored.

I hope that helped a little.

If anyone can share information on RADIUS and PC, I would love it.

On 8/19/2016 1:19 AM, George Skorup wrote:
The only thing is full relay vs insertion only. Full relay probably wouldn't work in this scenario. Because you can't define the L3 relay IP per VLAN. The AP is going to relay all DHCP requests to the specified address. I still say the way to go is static management IP on the SMs.

Wait... am I being stupid again? Is option 82 inserted for the SM itself or not? Been a while since I messed with it. If it does, that would be a good feature request for Cambium. Let us turn that off for the SM itself.

On 8/19/2016 12:03 AM, Sean Heskett wrote:
Good call on the VLANs George!  I think that might be the ticket.
That gives me something to try in our lab :)
-Sean

On Thursday, August 18, 2016, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com <mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:

    Does PC do the zero-touch config? Why can't a new SM come up
    and get the option 66 info for the config URL, then download
    its config which contains a static management IP?

    Or, what about separating things in VLANs? Put your SM
    management on a dedicated VLAN with its own DHCP server
    instance and the various options you need? Customer/user/data
    VLAN would be another DHCP server where you'd act upon the
    Agent-Remote-ID option 82 info.

    On 8/18/2016 11:25 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
    right now everything is static (mgmt and public ip) we try to
    deploy SMs with NAT enabled but that's not possible half the
    time for one reason or another.
    Once we move to powercode I want to use their zero touch
    config (dhcp option 66) to config the SM and then option 82
    if the SM is bridged to give an ip to their router or our
    managed calix router.  I'd prefer to not have to keep track
    of router MACs especially if the router is the customer's and
    not our calix.
    Powercode doesn't use RADIUS so I'd probably have to set that
    up on the side or something.
    Like I said I want to make this as automagic as possible and
    I'm wondering if anyone has already gone thru this so I don't
    have to reinvent the wheel.
    Powercode didn't have any ideas of how to accomplish this so
    maybe I'm blazing a trail on the cutting edge :-/
    -Sean

    On Thursday, August 18, 2016, George Skorup
    <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','geo...@cbcast.com');> wrote:

        I assume you're doing bridge mode? Use RADIUS to assign
        the SM's management IP. Then DHCP + Op 82 is used for the
        customer equipment.

        We just do static management IP on the SMs. Playing with
        NAT + DMZ on the customer side. Traceroute and other ICMP
        responses don't work through NAT mode, even with DMZ. And
        L2TP tunnels. I forget what else I tested on my SM at
        home. So far I'm not too thrilled with it.

        On 8/18/2016 10:08 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
        Hummmm that's the conclusion we were coming to also.
        I'm trying to find a way to make it all automagic but
        that seems not possible :-/
        -Sean


        On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Joe Novak
        <jno...@lrcomm.com> wrote:

            From how I understand it that is not possible unless
            you plan on managing via the public IP.
            Option 82, in its simplest form, just allows
            accounting via the SU mac address, along with what
            'circuit' (AP) it came from. I think in your
            situation if you want to use powercode to hand out
            public addresses you will need a static management
            network for CPEs.
            On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 9:05 PM, Sean Heskett
            <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:

                Thx joe,
                So if it sends the same 0a:00:3e MAC for the
                bridged device, how do you get the dhcp server
                to send the management IP to the SM since that
                would be the same MAC??
                -Sean

                On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Joe Novak
                <jno...@lrcomm.com> wrote:

                    Sean,
                    No problem!
                    Cambium 450/EPMP behave the same way I am
                    pretty sure without looking at my notes.
                    This post describes it perfectly and also
                    has a raw dump of the dhcp request:
                    
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/DHCP-Opt-82/td-p/39636
                    
<http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/DHCP-Opt-82/td-p/39636>
                    OPTION: 82 ( 29) Relay Agent Information
                    Circuit-ID 0a:00:3e:XX:XX:XX          #AP MAC
                    Remote-ID 0a:00:3e:YY:YY:YY          #SU
                    Wireless MAC
                    That means that even if the client is in
                    bridge mode the only mac address you need to
                    track is the subscriber unit. I do not know
                    any powercode specific stuff but I am
                    looking at implementing with DHCP ISC.
                    On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Sean
                    Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:

                        Hey joe,
                        Yeah we are mocking it up in our lab
                        right now. Mainly need to know what MAC
                        gets sent for all the different
                        interfaces - management, NAT enabled,
                        bridged etc.
                        Powercode will only let you add one IP
                        and MAC per device.  Since we are in the
                        process of importing all our data for
                        the migration to PC I'd like to set it
                        all up now to be ready for option 82 in
                        the future ;)
                        Joe, do you mind if our network engineer
                        Elijah contacts you off list??
                        Thanks,
                        Sean

                        On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Joe Novak
                        <jno...@lrcomm.com> wrote:

                            I plan on implementing it with
                            cambium both 450/epmp. Any specific
                            questions? I learned a lot by taking
                            a setting up a dhcp server with
                            whatever verbose logging turned on
                            and watching the requests.

                            On Aug 18, 2016 8:13 PM, "Josh
                            Luthman"
                            <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

                                I'm almost certain someone
                                does... But I'm not 100%

                                Josh Luthman
                                Office: 937-552-2340
                                <tel:937-552-2340>
                                Direct: 937-552-2343
                                <tel:937-552-2343>
                                1100 Wayne St
                                Suite 1337
                                Troy, OH 45373

                                On Aug 18, 2016 8:51 PM, "Sean
                                Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:

                                    Powercode said they had
                                    never done it and didn't
                                    know anyone who had. (I was
                                    kinda surprised at that
                                    response)
                                    Figured I'd check to see if
                                    y'all had used it.
                                    -Sean


                                    On Thursday, August 18,
                                    2016, Josh Luthman
                                    <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
                                    wrote:

                                        Have you contacted
                                        Powercode about this or
                                        no?  I figure they'd
                                        know, their wisp is Canopy.

                                        Josh Luthman
                                        Office: 937-552-2340
                                        <tel:937-552-2340>
                                        Direct: 937-552-2343
                                        <tel:937-552-2343>
                                        1100 Wayne St
                                        Suite 1337
                                        Troy, OH 45373

                                        On Aug 18, 2016 8:35 PM,
                                        "Sean Heskett"
                                        <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:

                                            We are in the
                                            process of migrating
                                            to powercode...it's
                                            not an easy task but
                                            I think it will be
                                            well worth it.  Lots
                                            of details to figure
                                            out lol.
                                            -Sean

                                            On Thursday, August
                                            18, 2016, Tushar
                                            Patel
                                            <tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote:

                                                You moved to
                                                powercode!!!

                                                Tushar


                                                > On Aug 18,
                                                2016, at 6:16
                                                PM, Sean Heskett
                                                <af...@zirkel.us>
                                                wrote:
                                                >
                                                > Hey gang,
                                                >
                                                > Any experts
                                                out there have
                                                experience with
                                                DHCP option 82 +
                                                Canopy +
                                                Powercode?  If
                                                so can I pick
                                                your brain???
                                                >
                                                > Thanks,
                                                >
                                                > Sean
                                                >
                                                >







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Phone: (702) 447-1247
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https://sonar.software

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Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
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https://sonar.software

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