HTTPS://Sonar.software On Aug 19, 2016 10:08 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> Tell us more. Price, capabilities, URL etc. > > *From:* Simon Westlake <simon@sonar.software> > *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 8:54 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sonar > > Yes, it's been available since early this year. You can sign up on the > site and get immediate access. > > On 8/19/2016 9:45 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > Is anything released? > > *From:* Jon Bruce <jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com> > *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 8:44 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DHCP option 82 + Canopy + Powercode > > Yes, Sonar. It's looking really good. > > > On 8/19/2016 10:21 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > WRT PC, wasn’t Simon working on something that possibly could be a > competitor? > > *From:* Jon Bruce <jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com> > *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 8:07 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DHCP option 82 + Canopy + Powercode > > We're using PC with DHCP for management of SMs and for public IPs. Each > is on it's own VLAN and IPs are given out by PC based on MAC address. > > PC can do RADIUS and has it (sort of half, almost, kinda) built in but I > haven't made it work (yet). Calling support will only leave you curled up > in a ball, crying. > > Under Network -> Servers, there is RADIUS and Canopy RADIUS. I asked once > what the difference was, what they were meant to do differently and why > there are two and was met with documentation removed from their site and > several support calls and emails ignored. > > I hope that helped a little. > > If anyone can share information on RADIUS and PC, I would love it. > > On 8/19/2016 1:19 AM, George Skorup wrote: > > The only thing is full relay vs insertion only. Full relay probably > wouldn't work in this scenario. Because you can't define the L3 relay IP > per VLAN. The AP is going to relay all DHCP requests to the specified > address. I still say the way to go is static management IP on the SMs. > > Wait... am I being stupid again? Is option 82 inserted for the SM itself > or not? Been a while since I messed with it. If it does, that would be a > good feature request for Cambium. Let us turn that off for the SM itself. > > On 8/19/2016 12:03 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: > > Good call on the VLANs George! I think that might be the ticket. > > That gives me something to try in our lab :) > > -Sean > > On Thursday, August 18, 2016, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote: > >> Does PC do the zero-touch config? Why can't a new SM come up and get the >> option 66 info for the config URL, then download its config which contains >> a static management IP? >> >> Or, what about separating things in VLANs? Put your SM management on a >> dedicated VLAN with its own DHCP server instance and the various options >> you need? Customer/user/data VLAN would be another DHCP server where you'd >> act upon the Agent-Remote-ID option 82 info. >> >> On 8/18/2016 11:25 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: >> >> right now everything is static (mgmt and public ip) we try to deploy SMs >> with NAT enabled but that's not possible half the time for one reason or >> another. >> >> Once we move to powercode I want to use their zero touch config (dhcp >> option 66) to config the SM and then option 82 if the SM is bridged to give >> an ip to their router or our managed calix router. I'd prefer to not have >> to keep track of router MACs especially if the router is the customer's and >> not our calix. >> >> Powercode doesn't use RADIUS so I'd probably have to set that up on the >> side or something. >> >> Like I said I want to make this as automagic as possible and I'm >> wondering if anyone has already gone thru this so I don't have to reinvent >> the wheel. >> >> Powercode didn't have any ideas of how to accomplish this so maybe I'm >> blazing a trail on the cutting edge :-/ >> >> -Sean >> >> On Thursday, August 18, 2016, George Skorup < >> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','geo...@cbcast.com');> wrote: >> >>> I assume you're doing bridge mode? Use RADIUS to assign the SM's >>> management IP. Then DHCP + Op 82 is used for the customer equipment. >>> >>> We just do static management IP on the SMs. Playing with NAT + DMZ on >>> the customer side. Traceroute and other ICMP responses don't work through >>> NAT mode, even with DMZ. And L2TP tunnels. I forget what else I tested on >>> my SM at home. So far I'm not too thrilled with it. >>> >>> On 8/18/2016 10:08 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: >>> >>> Hummmm that's the conclusion we were coming to also. >>> >>> I'm trying to find a way to make it all automagic but that seems not >>> possible :-/ >>> >>> -Sean >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Joe Novak <jno...@lrcomm.com> wrote: >>> >>>> From how I understand it that is not possible unless you plan on >>>> managing via the public IP. >>>> >>>> Option 82, in its simplest form, just allows accounting via the SU mac >>>> address, along with what 'circuit' (AP) it came from. I think in your >>>> situation if you want to use powercode to hand out public addresses you >>>> will need a static management network for CPEs. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 9:05 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thx joe, >>>>> >>>>> So if it sends the same 0a:00:3e MAC for the bridged device, how do >>>>> you get the dhcp server to send the management IP to the SM since that >>>>> would be the same MAC?? >>>>> >>>>> -Sean >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Joe Novak <jno...@lrcomm.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sean, >>>>>> >>>>>> No problem! >>>>>> >>>>>> Cambium 450/EPMP behave the same way I am pretty sure without looking >>>>>> at my notes. This post describes it perfectly and also has a raw dump of >>>>>> the dhcp request: http://community.cambiumnetwor >>>>>> ks.com/t5/PMP-450/DHCP-Opt-82/td-p/39636 >>>>>> >>>>>> OPTION: 82 ( 29) Relay Agent Information >>>>>> Circuit-ID 0a:00:3e:XX:XX:XX #AP MAC >>>>>> Remote-ID 0a:00:3e:YY:YY:YY #SU Wireless MAC >>>>>> >>>>>> That means that even if the client is in bridge mode the only mac >>>>>> address you need to track is the subscriber unit. I do not know any >>>>>> powercode specific stuff but I am looking at implementing with DHCP ISC. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey joe, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah we are mocking it up in our lab right now. Mainly need to know >>>>>>> what MAC gets sent for all the different interfaces - management, NAT >>>>>>> enabled, bridged etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Powercode will only let you add one IP and MAC per device. Since we >>>>>>> are in the process of importing all our data for the migration to PC I'd >>>>>>> like to set it all up now to be ready for option 82 in the future ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joe, do you mind if our network engineer Elijah contacts you off >>>>>>> list?? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sean >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Joe Novak <jno...@lrcomm.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I plan on implementing it with cambium both 450/epmp. Any specific >>>>>>>> questions? I learned a lot by taking a setting up a dhcp server with >>>>>>>> whatever verbose logging turned on and watching the requests. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2016 8:13 PM, "Josh Luthman" < >>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm almost certain someone does... But I'm not 100% >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2016 8:51 PM, "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Powercode said they had never done it and didn't know anyone who >>>>>>>>>> had. (I was kinda surprised at that response) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Figured I'd check to see if y'all had used it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -Sean >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Josh Luthman < >>>>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Have you contacted Powercode about this or no? I figure they'd >>>>>>>>>>> know, their wisp is Canopy. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2016 8:35 PM, "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We are in the process of migrating to powercode...it's not an >>>>>>>>>>>> easy task but I think it will be well worth it. Lots of details >>>>>>>>>>>> to figure >>>>>>>>>>>> out lol. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -Sean >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Tushar Patel <tpa...@ecpi.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You moved to powercode!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tushar >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Aug 18, 2016, at 6:16 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hey gang, >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > Any experts out there have experience with DHCP option 82 + >>>>>>>>>>>>> Canopy + Powercode? If so can I pick your brain??? >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > Sean >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > > > -- > Simon Westlake > Skype: Simon_Sonar > Email: simon@sonar.software > Phone: (702) 447-1247 > --------------------------- > Sonar Software Inc > The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software > >
