To some people, such as myself, openness matters as much as or more than certain design aspects. I used iPhones from 2008-2012 and did enjoy them, but that was back when jailbreaking was more or less mainstream. The fact that I even had to jailbreak in the first place, though, to use *my* phone the way that *I* wanted to bothered me, and I switched to Android when Apple's code-signing BS got to be too much and actually ended up screwing me over at one point.
I'm not saying that code-signing is bad...it is great from a security standpoint for the average user. But if somebody desires to turn it off, there should be a way for the owner of the phone to do so. By all means, make it a difficult process so that the bar to entry is high enough to dissuade the average user from doing so, but make it *possible*. Apple doesn't just use code-signing for security, they also use it as a bludgeon with which to bully their users. So if there is one aspect where I hope Google did *not* copy Apple in this endeavor, it is this. The bootloader on the new phones better darn well be unlockable by the user without the user having to exploit a security vulnerability to do so. -- Nathan -----Original Message----- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 3:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google wants to be Apple Some people ride a Honda, some people ride a Harley. Some people drive a Chevy, some people drive a BMW. I think it was you that even said "If the price was the same, everyone would be using an iPhone"... which I honestly believe. I have used a brand new Samsung phone with Android, and the first thing I noticed is that the screen response is not the same as an iPhone... it's not as smooth, or as refined. Yes, it works... it scrolls and it zooms and resizes, just like a Chevy gets you from Point A to Point B... but if a BMW was the same price as a Chevy, 99% of the population would be driving BMW. Just my thoughts. :) Travis On 10/5/2016 3:15 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > I will point out (again) that 8 to 9 of 10 smartphones on the planet > are Android. So while making it "elegant" is important, it's probably > more important to make it affordable. > > My Nexus phone is a damn fine phone, and I don't feel like I've been > left out of anything at all. > > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 10/5/2016 1:57 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: >> https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/05/not-ok-google/ >> >> It's taken a while, many years, but Google has finally admitted that >> Apple had it right all along... you have to control the hardware AND >> software to have an awesome product. This was Steve Job's goal from >> the very beginning with the Macintosh... and now everyone else is >> finally understanding. >> >> So now Google is copying everything Apple does... even down to the >> marketing materials. Every commercial they run (along with Samsung >> and everyone else) is always "this is why our product is better than >> Apple". If a company really believes that, you don't have to make the >> direct comparison. LOL >> >> "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" ~Charles Caleb Colton >> >> Travis >> > >
