Apple has already figured out that you can't just turn people loose,
being able to hack or jailbreak or make changes to the OS, and then also
provide free support. Google will see the same thing and begin to lock
their phones down too... it's just a matter of time.
Travis
On 10/5/2016 4:42 PM, Nathan Anderson wrote:
To some people, such as myself, openness matters as much as or more than
certain design aspects. I used iPhones from 2008-2012 and did enjoy them, but
that was back when jailbreaking was more or less mainstream. The fact that I
even had to jailbreak in the first place, though, to use *my* phone the way
that *I* wanted to bothered me, and I switched to Android when Apple's
code-signing BS got to be too much and actually ended up screwing me over at
one point.
I'm not saying that code-signing is bad...it is great from a security
standpoint for the average user. But if somebody desires to turn it off, there
should be a way for the owner of the phone to do so. By all means, make it a
difficult process so that the bar to entry is high enough to dissuade the
average user from doing so, but make it *possible*. Apple doesn't just use
code-signing for security, they also use it as a bludgeon with which to bully
their users.
So if there is one aspect where I hope Google did *not* copy Apple in this
endeavor, it is this. The bootloader on the new phones better darn well be
unlockable by the user without the user having to exploit a security
vulnerability to do so.
-- Nathan
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 3:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google wants to be Apple
Some people ride a Honda, some people ride a Harley. Some people drive a
Chevy, some people drive a BMW.
I think it was you that even said "If the price was the same, everyone
would be using an iPhone"... which I honestly believe. I have used a
brand new Samsung phone with Android, and the first thing I noticed is
that the screen response is not the same as an iPhone... it's not as
smooth, or as refined. Yes, it works... it scrolls and it zooms and
resizes, just like a Chevy gets you from Point A to Point B... but if a
BMW was the same price as a Chevy, 99% of the population would be
driving BMW.
Just my thoughts. :)
Travis
On 10/5/2016 3:15 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
I will point out (again) that 8 to 9 of 10 smartphones on the planet
are Android. So while making it "elegant" is important, it's probably
more important to make it affordable.
My Nexus phone is a damn fine phone, and I don't feel like I've been
left out of anything at all.
bp
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On 10/5/2016 1:57 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/05/not-ok-google/
It's taken a while, many years, but Google has finally admitted that
Apple had it right all along... you have to control the hardware AND
software to have an awesome product. This was Steve Job's goal from
the very beginning with the Macintosh... and now everyone else is
finally understanding.
So now Google is copying everything Apple does... even down to the
marketing materials. Every commercial they run (along with Samsung
and everyone else) is always "this is why our product is better than
Apple". If a company really believes that, you don't have to make the
direct comparison. LOL
"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" ~Charles Caleb Colton
Travis
