I'll pitch in for the 1st bottle of Jameson to get this thing off the ground :)
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 1:32 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Im going to start streaming myself playing fallout in my uderdrawers with a > bottle of Jameson, so i wont be active on this list for a while guys, next > time you see my i will be buying your companies with my twitch donations. > Its going to be a lonely list when i am owning your wisps, ill have to talk > to you guys in my twitch chat for advice on eirps and good antennas > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: >> >> There's nothing to bet on on a regular game though, not really. >> >> There's simply a lot of trust fund kids out there with wayyyy too much of >> mommy and daddy's money. >> >> Shit some of these people getting large donations on twitch don't even >> play competitive games at all - sometimes they're just sitting there >> bullshitting when a whale drops a chunk of change to them. >> >> On Dec 5, 2016 1:06 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>> >>> You don’t think there could be private betting on live streamed eSports? >>> >>> >>> >>> Otherwise, I can’t understand a $10K donation. That’s like leaving a >>> waitress a $10K tip. Which I guess does happen. But it seems really >>> strange that a fan would appreciate your game play so much to throw $10K >>> your way. I was thinking more like someone wins $1,000,000 at the blackjack >>> table in Vegas and leaves the dealer a $10K tip. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds >>> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 12:55 PM >>> >>> >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] explain Twitch >>> >>> >>> >>> How is $10,000 to a person not even on a team linked with betting? Don't >>> get me wrong, I'm sure there is on Regions, Worlds, and AllStars tourneys, >>> but during a regular game? I just can't see it. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 5, 2016 12:52 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>> >>> That tells me there is betting involved. >>> >>> >>> >>> Have you seen the movie Rat Race, with the rich guys who’ll bet on >>> anything? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds >>> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 12:41 PM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] explain Twitch >>> >>> >>> >>> I've seen twitch users have $10,000 from a single donation. These are >>> high level League of Legends streamers. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 5, 2016 11:42 AM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I don't know the appeal or logic behind it, but a Twitch user will get >>> subscribers. A viewer spends $5/mo to sponsor them. I believe the Twitch >>> broadcaster gets 3 of that. >>> >>> >>> >>> Decently popular ones get 500-1000 subs which is $1500 to $3000 a month >>> (18-36k/year). >>> >>> >>> >>> Their only cost is a good computer, some gaming stuff, and some sort of >>> appeal. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>> hehe.. oh I like that idea! ;) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 5, 2016, at 8:22 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> This is why your customers ask for big pipes. You have to understand your >>> customers. So this time is dedicated to „customer relationship“ ;-). >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Paul Stewart >>> Gesendet: Montag, 5. Dezember 2016 13:47 >>> An: af@afmug.com >>> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] explain Twitch >>> >>> >>> >>> I’ve asked Mrs. Clause to get me one for Christmas.. I love new tech… >>> >>> >>> >>> My problem, and of course i’m not alone, is I don’t really have much time >>> to sit down and play games …. I enjoy them though …. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 5, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> As a technic enthusiast I am very impressed what Sony does with their PS >>> VR. It is not like 3d movie in theater it is a whole new experience. Just >>> dive into Rush of Blood and you are flashed. Like Apple they bring a new >>> technic in a way people like it. The headset is very well built and the >>> cabling is explained in a way everyone is able to do it. This is something >>> like the iPad1 you should have. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett >>> Gesendet: Montag, 5. Dezember 2016 13:26 >>> An: af@afmug.com >>> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] explain Twitch >>> >>> >>> >>> I enjoy them and used to enjoy spending lots of time at it (40+ hours per >>> week), I simply haven't had the time for it in years. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>> >>> The Brothers WISP >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 6:40:57 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] explain Twitch >>> >>> I enjoy video games, but I prohibit my self from playing them since >>> they're an absolutely terrific waste of time. >>> >>> On Sunday, December 4, 2016, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> My life will not be diminished whether I get it or not. I feel fulfilled >>> without any video games in my life (either me or someone else playing them). >>> >>> >>> bp >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> On 12/4/2016 10:24 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>> >>> Think about it this way: it's the first "sport" that has international >>> reach outside of soccer. It already has more exposure than baseball, >>> football, etc. The only thing it doesn't come close to is FIFA World >>> Cup viewership (3.2 Billion in 2014). The barrier to viewership is >>> that it only requires internet access to YouTube/Twitch - it's >>> viewership growth does not require some expensive/exclusive sports >>> Cable package. Baseball, football, boxing, car racing (largely) etc >>> are all slowly and painfully dying off. The growth is in MMA and >>> eSports. >>> >>> Although you "don't get it" (I don't either, largely), the rest of the >>> world does. Ignore that at your peril :P >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Despite the amazing popularity, it still does not draw me. >>> >>> >>> bp >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> On 12/4/2016 9:47 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>> >>> Just to put things into perspective, League of Legends is currently the >>> largest competitive scene. The 2015 championships, which was a multi-day >>> multi-city bracketed event held in several countries, had over 334 >>> million >>> viewers (not counting multiple people watching the same stream). The >>> final >>> numbers on the 2016 event aren't in yet. Colleges are giving out >>> scholarships for this (no joke). >>> >>> These events sell out places like the Staples center, and world cup >>> stadiums. Madison Square Garden may be next year. >>> >>> On Dec 4, 2016 11:40 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: >>> >>> Fun, fame, and profit. >>> >>> Some of these YouTube streamers bring in over 150k a year in advertising >>> revenue. Most of these are young kids (preteen), some actually teenagers. >>> >>> Twitch streamers can bring in several hundreds of thousands a year in >>> stream donations. >>> >>> My oldest (17/m) doesn't watch traditional TV. He's unfamiliar, largely, >>> with commercials. Sports on TV? No way. He watches Hulu, Netflix, but >>> mainly >>> YouTube/twitch. >>> >>> There's a new eSports bar going up here in KC. I bet they end up with >>> more >>> net profit in the first year than the local Buffalo Wild Wings. Mix of >>> bar >>> w/ pub food, TVs streaming games/championships, and actual PCs/gaming >>> (half-hourly charges). >>> >>> On Dec 4, 2016 10:39 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>> >>> I was born without the gaming gene, so can someone explain Twitch to me? >>> >>> >>> >>> I have a customer spending a lot of money (now that harvest is over) for >>> a speed tier with 5 Mbps of upstream so he can broadcast. Which I see he >>> does for 12 hours straight. >>> >>> >>> >>> What is the appeal? Fun? Fame? Or profit? Does this bring in >>> advertising money? Enough to make it worthwhile? >>> >>> >>> >>> And how does someone stream their game play for 12 hours straight? >>> Astronaut diapers? Lots of Mountain Dew and Doritos? Or do they get >>> breaks? >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as > part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- Micah Miller Network/Server Administrator Network Business Systems, Inc. Phone: 309-944-8823
