I'll contribute dialog from my random swipe responses.

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 2:01 PM Micah Miller <mi...@nbson.com> wrote:

> I'll pitch in for the 1st bottle of Jameson to get this thing off the
> ground :)
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 1:32 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Im going to start streaming myself playing fallout in my uderdrawers
> with a
> > bottle of Jameson, so i wont be active on this list for a while guys,
> next
> > time you see my i will be buying your companies with my twitch donations.
> > Its going to be a lonely list when i am owning your wisps, ill have to
> talk
> > to you guys in my twitch chat for advice on eirps and good antennas
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> There's nothing to bet on on a regular game though, not really.
> >>
> >> There's simply a lot of trust fund kids out there with wayyyy too much
> of
> >> mommy and daddy's money.
> >>
> >> Shit some of these people getting large donations on twitch don't even
> >> play competitive games at all - sometimes they're just sitting there
> >> bullshitting when a whale drops a chunk of change to them.
> >>
> >> On Dec 5, 2016 1:06 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> You don’t think there could be private betting on live streamed
> eSports?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Otherwise, I can’t understand a $10K donation.  That’s like leaving a
> >>> waitress a $10K tip.  Which I guess does happen.  But it seems really
> >>> strange that a fan would appreciate your game play so much to throw
> $10K
> >>> your way.  I was thinking more like someone wins $1,000,000 at the
> blackjack
> >>> table in Vegas and leaves the dealer a $10K tip.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
> >>> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 12:55 PM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> To: af@afmug.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] explain Twitch
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> How is $10,000 to a person not even on a team linked with betting?
> Don't
> >>> get me wrong, I'm sure there is on Regions, Worlds, and AllStars
> tourneys,
> >>> but during a regular game? I just can't see it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 5, 2016 12:52 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> That tells me there is betting involved.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Have you seen the movie Rat Race, with the rich guys who’ll bet on
> >>> anything?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
> >>> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 12:41 PM
> >>> To: af@afmug.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] explain Twitch
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I've seen twitch users have $10,000 from a single donation. These are
> >>> high level League of Legends streamers.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 5, 2016 11:42 AM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I don't know the appeal or logic behind it, but a Twitch user will get
> >>> subscribers.  A viewer spends $5/mo to sponsor them.  I believe the
> Twitch
> >>> broadcaster gets 3 of that.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Decently popular ones get 500-1000 subs which is $1500 to $3000 a month
> >>> (18-36k/year).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Their only cost is a good computer, some gaming stuff, and some sort of
> >>> appeal.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Josh Luthman
> >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> >>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>> Suite 1337
> >>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> hehe.. oh I like that idea! ;)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 5, 2016, at 8:22 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This is why your customers ask for big pipes. You have to understand
> your
> >>> customers. So this time is dedicated to „customer relationship“ ;-).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Paul Stewart
> >>> Gesendet: Montag, 5. Dezember 2016 13:47
> >>> An: af@afmug.com
> >>> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] explain Twitch
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I’ve asked Mrs. Clause to get me one for Christmas.. I love new tech…
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> My problem, and of course i’m not alone, is I don’t really have much
> time
> >>> to sit down and play games …. I enjoy them though ….
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 5, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> As a technic enthusiast I am very impressed what Sony does with their
> PS
> >>> VR. It is not like 3d movie in theater it is a whole new experience.
> Just
> >>> dive into Rush of Blood and you are flashed. Like Apple they bring a
> new
> >>> technic in a way people like it. The headset is very well built and the
> >>> cabling is explained in a way everyone is able to do it. This is
> something
> >>> like the iPad1 you should have.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett
> >>> Gesendet: Montag, 5. Dezember 2016 13:26
> >>> An: af@afmug.com
> >>> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] explain Twitch
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I enjoy them and used to enjoy spending lots of time at it (40+ hours
> per
> >>> week), I simply haven't had the time for it in years.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----
> >>> Mike Hammett
> >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >>>
> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange
> >>>
> >>> The Brothers WISP
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>>
> >>> From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
> >>> To: af@afmug.com
> >>> Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 6:40:57 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] explain Twitch
> >>>
> >>> I enjoy video games, but I prohibit my self from playing them since
> >>> they're an absolutely terrific waste of time.
> >>>
> >>> On Sunday, December 4, 2016, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> My life will not be diminished whether I get it or not. I feel
> fulfilled
> >>> without any video games in my life (either me or someone else playing
> them).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> bp
> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>
> >>> On 12/4/2016 10:24 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Think about it this way: it's the first "sport" that has international
> >>> reach outside of soccer. It already has more exposure than baseball,
> >>> football, etc. The only thing it doesn't come close to is FIFA World
> >>> Cup viewership (3.2 Billion in 2014). The barrier to viewership is
> >>> that it only requires internet access to YouTube/Twitch - it's
> >>> viewership growth does not require some expensive/exclusive sports
> >>> Cable package. Baseball, football, boxing, car racing (largely) etc
> >>> are all slowly and painfully dying off. The growth is in MMA and
> >>> eSports.
> >>>
> >>> Although you "don't get it" (I don't either, largely), the rest of the
> >>> world does. Ignore that at your peril :P
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Despite the amazing popularity, it still does not draw me.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> bp
> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>
> >>> On 12/4/2016 9:47 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Just to put things into perspective, League of Legends is currently the
> >>> largest competitive scene. The 2015 championships, which was a
> multi-day
> >>> multi-city bracketed event held in several countries, had over 334
> >>> million
> >>> viewers (not counting multiple people watching the same stream). The
> >>> final
> >>> numbers on the 2016 event aren't in yet. Colleges are giving out
> >>> scholarships for this (no joke).
> >>>
> >>> These events sell out places like the Staples center, and world cup
> >>> stadiums. Madison Square Garden may be next year.
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 4, 2016 11:40 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Fun, fame, and profit.
> >>>
> >>> Some of these YouTube streamers bring in over 150k a year in
> advertising
> >>> revenue. Most of these are young kids (preteen), some actually
> teenagers.
> >>>
> >>> Twitch streamers can bring in several hundreds of thousands a year in
> >>> stream donations.
> >>>
> >>> My oldest (17/m) doesn't watch traditional TV. He's unfamiliar,
> largely,
> >>> with commercials. Sports on TV? No way. He watches Hulu, Netflix, but
> >>> mainly
> >>> YouTube/twitch.
> >>>
> >>> There's a new eSports bar going up here in KC. I bet they end up with
> >>> more
> >>> net profit in the first year than the local Buffalo Wild Wings. Mix of
> >>> bar
> >>> w/ pub food, TVs streaming games/championships, and actual PCs/gaming
> >>> (half-hourly charges).
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 4, 2016 10:39 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I was born without the gaming gene, so can someone explain Twitch to
> me?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have a customer spending a lot of money (now that harvest is over)
> for
> >>> a speed tier with 5 Mbps of upstream so he can broadcast.  Which I see
> he
> >>> does for 12 hours straight.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What is the appeal?  Fun?  Fame?  Or profit?  Does this bring in
> >>> advertising money?  Enough to make it worthwhile?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> And how does someone stream their game play for 12 hours straight?
> >>> Astronaut diapers?  Lots of Mountain Dew and Doritos?  Or do they get
> >>> breaks?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as
> > part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
> --
> Micah Miller
> Network/Server Administrator
> Network Business Systems, Inc.
> Phone: 309-944-8823 <(309)%20944-8823>
>

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