English conviction rates? On Feb 21, 2017 10:28 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> and you also need to provide the english conviction rates withing that > data set > > > > In regard to the rioting, as I understand it, thats over a guy getting > baton raped in custody by the police, to be fair, thats not an immigration > issue > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > wrote: > >> Further clarification: >> >> One study of rape in Swedish cases covering the years from 2002 to 2007, >> done in 2009, showed that Sweden had a rate of reported rapes (counted in >> international rape figures) double that of England. 53% of which where the >> cases were thrown out before court started due to insufficient evidence... >> And then there's that 13% conviction rate. >> >> 6700 rapes X 13% conviction rate = 871 rapes with sufficient evidence to >> convict. >> >> >> On Feb 20, 2017 10:29 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: >> >>> In 2005 they changed the way they report rape. >>> >>> First, they count each REPORT, before an investigation has been done. >>> >>> Secondly, they count each act against an individual as separate counts >>> of rape instead of one. >>> >>> Let's say a female at a rave reported being raped by 15 individuals one >>> night. That would be counted as 15 individual reports of rape. >>> >>> Or, if a gay man says he was raped over 200 times over the course of a >>> year, that would be counted as 200 unique counts of rape. >>> >>> There is also the year to account for, as a rape committed say in 2007 >>> but reported in say 2014 would be added to 2014 totals under Swedish law. >>> >>> In 1992 in Sweden the legal definition of rape was widened to often >>> include what many countries would consider sexual assaults, which led to a >>> 25% increase in "rape" being reported. >>> >>> It's also important to look at the number of people in Sweden at the >>> times give the reports. From 2005 there were around 9.02 million in Sweden. >>> In 2015 there were 9.78, or an increase of 760,000 people. >>> >>> Also look at conviction rates. In 2007 for instance, less than 13% of >>> those in Sweden accused of rape ended up being convicted. >>> >>> >>> You can't look at this from just one side. People need to be objective >>> and do actual research from multiple sources, in the most unbiased way >>> possible. >>> >>> >>> On Feb 20, 2017 9:58 PM, "Cameron Crum" <cc...@wispmon.com> wrote: >>> >>> Or you could do the research yourself. Based on stats from the Swedish >>> government, in 2006, presumably before there were refugees, there were 4208 >>> rapes. In 2014 there were 6700 rapes. That right there is a 62.8% increase >>> and doesn't take into account the last two years. Another stat shows that >>> 77% of those were committed by men who were foreign born. They also >>> currently have like the 6th highest rate of rape per capita in the world >>> and highest by far of any western country. There is always this article >>> which appears to be in favor of the immigration. >>> >>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/13/sex- >>> assaults-sweden-stockholm-music-festival >>> >>> And tonight, there are riots in Stockholm. >>> >>> http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=64311 >>> >>> http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-20/meanwhile-rioting-b >>> reaks-out-sweden >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 5:10 PM, SmarterBroadband <li...@sbb.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Stop listening to alt-facts, fake news. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Politifact says that is not true. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If we look specifically at sex offences, which the Fox News segment >>>> highlighted, there were 18,100 sex offenses reported to the police in 2015, >>>> down 11 percent from 2014, according to the Swedish National Council >>>> for Crime Prevention >>>> <https://www.bra.se/bra/bra-in-english/home/crime-and-statistics/rape-and-sex-offences.html> >>>> . >>>> >>>> The number of rapes reported decreased 12 percent between 2014 and >>>> 2015, to 5,920, the agency reported. The council noted that in Sweden, when >>>> a single case is reported, every incident associated with the case is also >>>> reported as an offense during the same year. >>>> >>>> The amount of reported rape offenses has gone up in the last 10 years >>>> (2006-15), which the agency said can be partially attributed to new >>>> legislation in 2005 that augmented the types of acts that can be classified >>>> as rape. >>>> >>>> "The effect of the statutory change appeared in the statistics such >>>> that the number of reported offences in respect of sexual coercion and >>>> exploitation declined in the years immediately following the statutory >>>> change while the number of reported rapes increased," according to the >>>> agency. In 2013, a rape offense was broadened "to include cases where the >>>> victim reacts passively." >>>> >>>> And on crime >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "In general, crime statistics have gone down the last (few) years, and >>>> no there is no evidence to suggest that new waves of immigration has lead >>>> to increased crime," >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum >>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 20, 2017 2:38 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I think any rational person who has followed the news about the refugee >>>> situation in Europe would have figured out exactly what he meant. A 70% >>>> increase in rapes in the last couple years in Sweden is a pretty good >>>> indication that there is a problem there. If any city, let alone our whole >>>> country, had seen this much of an increase, you know you'd be hearing about >>>> it. Swedish authorities took a lot of heat for covering up the number of >>>> assaults recently at the Stockholm Music Festival, but I don't think to >>>> many news outlets over here even reported it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> 2 & 2 is 22, give the guy some credit >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, February 20, >>>> 2017 2:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics >>>> >>>> No. He heard "something" on Fox about "something" in Sweden. He put 2 >>>> and 2 together and got 11. >>>> >>>> >>>> bp >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>> >>>> On 2/20/2017 1:22 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>> >>>> I am guessing something happened in some other country and he got >>>> confused. >>>> Or, better yet, he was spilling the beans on some kind of intelligence >>>> without thinking. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince >>>> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 1:41 PM >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics >>>> >>>> Is that what happened in Sweden? Sweden! Sweden? Sweden! >>>> >>>> Really? Sweden?!? >>>> >>>> >>>> bp >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>> >>>> On 2/20/2017 11:37 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>>> >>>> From the news: >>>> >>>> Russia's ambassador to the United Nations . . . died suddenly after >>>> falling ill Monday in his office at the mission. >>>> >>>> We all know what that means... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >
