We have always done 32:1.  I think Cascade Networks may have tried the 64:1

From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 11:01 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their initial deployment was 64x1. The 
company I just got off the ground did 16x1.

On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> wrote:

  AE gets to be a headache with power costs and heat control in cabinets.



  Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now and probably well into the future.



  I believe that is what Google did, maybe 8:1 max split?



  The temptation with GPON is to stretch it to the limits, which might cause 
some re-splicing down the road if you want super high FDX.



  AE doesn’t have that problem even with equipment a decade old I can still 
supply the same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps each if I want to carry that much on 
the backhaul. Equipment is super cheap, and it’s essentially backwards 
compatible with GPON if your neighborhood runs are short like mine. But again, 
lots of power is required.



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
  Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON



  Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per wavelength and multiple wavelengths 
all overlaid on GPON so nothing in the OSP has to change.  All the splitters 
etc still work.  That will give everyone on the PON 312.5 Mbps symmetrical all 
at the same time.  So oversubscribing 3:1 you could sell 1G symmetrical to 
everyone and probably not run out of headroom.  



  From: Carlos Alcantar 

  Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON



  to add to this post with the new PON technologies being released this year 
giving everyone 1G FDX is going to be a non issue.





  Carlos Alcantar

  Race Communications / Race Team Member 

  1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010

  Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com




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  From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of George Skorup 
<george.sko...@cbcast.com>
  Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON 



  I'm not really worried about POTS and RF. Everyone is using cell phones and 
watching Netflix.

  The AE deployment is a total waste of equipment and resources for the 
utilization we're seeing. I have to go there next week and turn up another 
switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging less than 100Mbps every night. The network 
owner was convinced that everyone had to have 1G FDX. They just don't realize 
how much electronics and power is required for 1k ports. There's less than 100 
customers so far, so please, for the love of god, lets fix this now! We'll see 
what happens.

  Anyway.. this project we're looking to do on our own is a neighborhood of 
rich bitches. We already have PMP450 there and it works fine. They "want more 
speed" and if they're willing to put up some cash for it, then we'll build it.

  On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

    Alphion does, yes.



    On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

      What kind of costs are you talking?
      Does  it talk to ONTs?  ONTs with POTS ports?

      Sterling is AE, I know his costs are pretty low.  
      -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup Sent: Saturday, March 04, 
2017 8:39 PM To: af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] Small-scale 
GPON 

      We're looking to do another "fiberhood" with GPON instead of AE this time 
around. I remember Chuck Hogg mentioned Alphion. Has anyone deployed the 
AOLT-4200? Looks like a good solution. Or what else have you used for small 
deployments?




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