Yup. My plan is to start 32:1 and knock it down to 16:1 and throw in another OLT if needed.

On 3/6/2017 12:01 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their initial deployment was 64x1. The company I just got off the ground did 16x1.

On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net <mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:

    AE gets to be a headache with power costs and heat control in
    cabinets.

    Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now and probably well into the
    future.

    I believe that is what Google did, maybe 8:1 max split?

    The temptation with GPON is to stretch it to the limits, which
    might cause some re-splicing down the road if you want super high FDX.

    AE doesn’t have that problem even with equipment a decade old I
    can still supply the same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps each if I want
    to carry that much on the backhaul. Equipment is super cheap, and
    it’s essentially backwards compatible with GPON if your
    neighborhood runs are short like mine. But again, lots of power is
    required.

    *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
    *Sent:* Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

    Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per wavelength and multiple
    wavelengths all overlaid on GPON so nothing in the OSP has to
    change.  All the splitters etc still work.  That will give
everyone on the PON 312.5 Mbps symmetrical all at the same time. So oversubscribing 3:1 you could sell 1G symmetrical to everyone
    and probably not run out of headroom.

    *From:*Carlos Alcantar

    *Sent:*Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM

    *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

    to add to this post with the new PON technologies being released
    this year giving everyone 1G FDX is going to be a non issue.

    Carlos Alcantar

    Race Communications / Race Team Member

    1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010

    Phone: +1 415 376 3314 <tel:%28415%29%20376-3314> /
    car...@race.com <mailto:car...@race.com>/ http://www.race.com
    <http://www.race.com/>

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    *From:*Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on
    behalf of George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com
    <mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>>
    *Sent:* Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

    I'm not really worried about POTS and RF. Everyone is using cell
    phones and watching Netflix.

    The AE deployment is a total waste of equipment and resources for
    the utilization we're seeing. I have to go there next week and
    turn up another switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging less than
    100Mbps every night. The network owner was convinced that everyone
    had to have 1G FDX. They just don't realize how much electronics
    and power is required for 1k ports. There's less than 100
    customers so far, so please, for the love of god, lets fix this
    now! We'll see what happens.

    Anyway.. this project we're looking to do on our own is a
    neighborhood of rich bitches. We already have PMP450 there and it
    works fine. They "want more speed" and if they're willing to put
    up some cash for it, then we'll build it.

    On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

        Alphion does, yes.

        On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com
        <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

            What kind of costs are you talking?
            Does  it talk to ONTs?  ONTs with POTS ports?

            Sterling is AE, I know his costs are pretty low.
            -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup Sent:
            Saturday, March 04, 2017 8:39 PM To: af@afmug.com
            <mailto:af@afmug.com> ; memb...@wispa.org
            <mailto:memb...@wispa.org> Subject: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

            We're looking to do another "fiberhood" with GPON instead
            of AE this time around. I remember Chuck Hogg mentioned
            Alphion. Has anyone deployed the AOLT-4200? Looks like a
            good solution. Or what else have you used for small
            deployments?


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