haha… yeah fair enough ;)
> On Mar 6, 2017, at 7:04 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
> It can be different when you're the one paying for it :)
>
> On Mar 6, 2017 5:13 PM, "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org
> <mailto:p...@paulstewart.org>> wrote:
> Interesting …. do they work ok?
>
> I came from Calix and Adtran world for GPON/ONT stuff … considerably more
> than that. I did look at some DWDM stuff from China and it was total junk in
> my opinion - some people like it .. not my thing.
>
>
>> On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com
>> <mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm importing direct from China. 16Port OLT with Class Optics and Power
>> Supply for $3200. ONT's for $25. PLC's from $2-10 depending on the split.
>> Check Alibaba.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:31 PM, George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com
>> <mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
>> Yup. My plan is to start 32:1 and knock it down to 16:1 and throw in another
>> OLT if needed.
>>
>> On 3/6/2017 12:01 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>> Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their initial deployment was 64x1.
>>> The company I just got off the ground did 16x1.
>>>
>>> On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net
>>> <mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:
>>> AE gets to be a headache with power costs and heat control in cabinets.
>>>
>>>
>>> Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now and probably well into the future.
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe that is what Google did, maybe 8:1 max split?
>>>
>>>
>>> The temptation with GPON is to stretch it to the limits, which might cause
>>> some re-splicing down the road if you want super high FDX.
>>>
>>>
>>> AE doesn’t have that problem even with equipment a decade old I can still
>>> supply the same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps each if I want to carry that much
>>> on the backhaul. Equipment is super cheap, and it’s essentially backwards
>>> compatible with GPON if your neighborhood runs are short like mine. But
>>> again, lots of power is required.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On
>>> Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>>>
>>>
>>> Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per wavelength and multiple
>>> wavelengths all overlaid on GPON so nothing in the OSP has to change. All
>>> the splitters etc still work. That will give everyone on the PON 312.5
>>> Mbps symmetrical all at the same time. So oversubscribing 3:1 you could
>>> sell 1G symmetrical to everyone and probably not run out of headroom.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Carlos Alcantar
>>>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM
>>>
>>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>>>
>>>
>>> to add to this post with the new PON technologies being released this year
>>> giving everyone 1G FDX is going to be a non issue.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Carlos Alcantar
>>>
>>> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>>>
>>> 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
>>>
>>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314 <tel:%28415%29%20376-3314> / car...@race.com
>>> <mailto:car...@race.com> / http://www.race.com <http://www.race.com/>
>>>
>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of
>>> George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com <mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not really worried about POTS and RF. Everyone is using cell phones and
>>> watching Netflix.
>>>
>>> The AE deployment is a total waste of equipment and resources for the
>>> utilization we're seeing. I have to go there next week and turn up another
>>> switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging less than 100Mbps every night. The
>>> network owner was convinced that everyone had to have 1G FDX. They just
>>> don't realize how much electronics and power is required for 1k ports.
>>> There's less than 100 customers so far, so please, for the love of god,
>>> lets fix this now! We'll see what happens.
>>>
>>> Anyway.. this project we're looking to do on our own is a neighborhood of
>>> rich bitches. We already have PMP450 there and it works fine. They "want
>>> more speed" and if they're willing to put up some cash for it, then we'll
>>> build it.
>>>
>>> On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>
>>> Alphion does, yes.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What kind of costs are you talking?
>>> Does it talk to ONTs? ONTs with POTS ports?
>>>
>>> Sterling is AE, I know his costs are pretty low.
>>> -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup Sent: Saturday, March 04,
>>> 2017 8:39 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> ; memb...@wispa.org
>>> <mailto:memb...@wispa.org> Subject: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>>>
>>> We're looking to do another "fiberhood" with GPON instead of AE this time
>>> around. I remember Chuck Hogg mentioned Alphion. Has anyone deployed the
>>> AOLT-4200? Looks like a good solution. Or what else have you used for small
>>> deployments?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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