For very small scale I would recommend going GEPON, we have been using a Planet 2 port OLT cost $2000~, ONUs are about $50
From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Monday, March 6, 2017 at 2:11 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON If you are using Calix, then your port cost will be very high. We went Alphion. Our OLT and port costs were very low. This help us have less oversub on ports. The plan was to design for a 32x1 but deploy a 16x1, with the intent to to make it a 16x2 and overlay NG-PON2 in the future. Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png] On Mar 6, 2017 12:04 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: We have always done 32:1. I think Cascade Networks may have tried the 64:1 From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 11:01 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their initial deployment was 64x1. The company I just got off the ground did 16x1. On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> wrote: AE gets to be a headache with power costs and heat control in cabinets. Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now and probably well into the future. I believe that is what Google did, maybe 8:1 max split? The temptation with GPON is to stretch it to the limits, which might cause some re-splicing down the road if you want super high FDX. AE doesn’t have that problem even with equipment a decade old I can still supply the same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps each if I want to carry that much on the backhaul. Equipment is super cheap, and it’s essentially backwards compatible with GPON if your neighborhood runs are short like mine. But again, lots of power is required. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per wavelength and multiple wavelengths all overlaid on GPON so nothing in the OSP has to change. All the splitters etc still work. That will give everyone on the PON 312.5 Mbps symmetrical all at the same time. So oversubscribing 3:1 you could sell 1G symmetrical to everyone and probably not run out of headroom. From: Carlos Alcantar Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON to add to this post with the new PON technologies being released this year giving everyone 1G FDX is going to be a non issue. Carlos Alcantar Race Communications / Race Team Member 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010 Phone: +1 415 376 3314<tel:(415)%20376-3314> / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com<http://www.race.com/> ________________________________ From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com> Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON I'm not really worried about POTS and RF. Everyone is using cell phones and watching Netflix. The AE deployment is a total waste of equipment and resources for the utilization we're seeing. I have to go there next week and turn up another switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging less than 100Mbps every night. The network owner was convinced that everyone had to have 1G FDX. They just don't realize how much electronics and power is required for 1k ports. There's less than 100 customers so far, so please, for the love of god, lets fix this now! We'll see what happens. Anyway.. this project we're looking to do on our own is a neighborhood of rich bitches. We already have PMP450 there and it works fine. They "want more speed" and if they're willing to put up some cash for it, then we'll build it. On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Alphion does, yes. On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: What kind of costs are you talking? Does it talk to ONTs? ONTs with POTS ports? Sterling is AE, I know his costs are pretty low. -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 8:39 PM To: af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON We're looking to do another "fiberhood" with GPON instead of AE this time around. I remember Chuck Hogg mentioned Alphion. Has anyone deployed the AOLT-4200? Looks like a good solution. Or what else have you used for small deployments?
