Interesting …. do they work ok?

I came from Calix and Adtran world for GPON/ONT stuff … considerably more than 
that.  I did look at some DWDM stuff from China and it was total junk in my 
opinion - some people like it .. not my thing.


> On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm importing direct from China.  16Port OLT with Class Optics and Power 
> Supply for $3200.  ONT's for $25.  PLC's from $2-10 depending on the split.  
> Check Alibaba.
> 
> Regards,
> Chuck
> 
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:31 PM, George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com 
> <mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
> Yup. My plan is to start 32:1 and knock it down to 16:1 and throw in another 
> OLT if needed.
> 
> On 3/6/2017 12:01 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>> Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their initial deployment was 64x1. 
>> The company I just got off the ground did 16x1.
>> 
>> On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net 
>> <mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:
>> AE gets to be a headache with power costs and heat control in cabinets.
>> 
>>  
>> Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now and probably well into the future.
>> 
>>  
>> I believe that is what Google did, maybe 8:1 max split?
>> 
>>  
>> The temptation with GPON is to stretch it to the limits, which might cause 
>> some re-splicing down the road if you want super high FDX.
>> 
>>  
>> AE doesn’t have that problem even with equipment a decade old I can still 
>> supply the same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps each if I want to carry that much 
>> on the backhaul. Equipment is super cheap, and it’s essentially backwards 
>> compatible with GPON if your neighborhood runs are short like mine. But 
>> again, lots of power is required.
>> 
>>  
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On 
>> Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>> Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>> 
>>  
>> Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per wavelength and multiple wavelengths 
>> all overlaid on GPON so nothing in the OSP has to change.  All the splitters 
>> etc still work.  That will give everyone on the PON 312.5 Mbps symmetrical 
>> all at the same time.  So oversubscribing 3:1 you could sell 1G symmetrical 
>> to everyone and probably not run out of headroom. 
>> 
>>  
>> From: Carlos Alcantar
>> 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM
>> 
>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>> 
>>  
>> to add to this post with the new PON technologies being released this year 
>> giving everyone 1G FDX is going to be a non issue.
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> Carlos Alcantar
>> 
>> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>> 
>> 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
>> 
>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314 <tel:%28415%29%20376-3314> / car...@race.com 
>> <mailto:car...@race.com> / http://www.race.com <http://www.race.com/>
>>  
>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of 
>> George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com <mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>> 
>>  
>> I'm not really worried about POTS and RF. Everyone is using cell phones and 
>> watching Netflix.
>> 
>> The AE deployment is a total waste of equipment and resources for the 
>> utilization we're seeing. I have to go there next week and turn up another 
>> switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging less than 100Mbps every night. The 
>> network owner was convinced that everyone had to have 1G FDX. They just 
>> don't realize how much electronics and power is required for 1k ports. 
>> There's less than 100 customers so far, so please, for the love of god, lets 
>> fix this now! We'll see what happens.
>> 
>> Anyway.. this project we're looking to do on our own is a neighborhood of 
>> rich bitches. We already have PMP450 there and it works fine. They "want 
>> more speed" and if they're willing to put up some cash for it, then we'll 
>> build it.
>> 
>> On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>> 
>> Alphion does, yes.
>> 
>>  
>> On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com 
>> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> What kind of costs are you talking?
>> Does  it talk to ONTs?  ONTs with POTS ports?
>> 
>> Sterling is AE, I know his costs are pretty low.  
>> -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup Sent: Saturday, March 04, 
>> 2017 8:39 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> ; memb...@wispa.org 
>> <mailto:memb...@wispa.org> Subject: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>> 
>> We're looking to do another "fiberhood" with GPON instead of AE this time 
>> around. I remember Chuck Hogg mentioned Alphion. Has anyone deployed the 
>> AOLT-4200? Looks like a good solution. Or what else have you used for small  
>>                                          deployments?
>> 
>>  
>>  
> 
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