It can be different when you're the one paying for it :) On Mar 6, 2017 5:13 PM, "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org> wrote:
> Interesting …. do they work ok? > > I came from Calix and Adtran world for GPON/ONT stuff … considerably more > than that. I did look at some DWDM stuff from China and it was total junk > in my opinion - some people like it .. not my thing. > > > On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote: > > I'm importing direct from China. 16Port OLT with Class Optics and Power > Supply for $3200. ONT's for $25. PLC's from $2-10 depending on the > split. Check Alibaba. > > Regards, > Chuck > > On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:31 PM, George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com> > wrote: > >> Yup. My plan is to start 32:1 and knock it down to 16:1 and throw in >> another OLT if needed. >> >> On 3/6/2017 12:01 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >> >> Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their initial deployment was 64x1. >> The company I just got off the ground did 16x1. >> >> On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> >> wrote: >> >>> AE gets to be a headache with power costs and heat control in cabinets. >>> >>> >>> Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now and probably well into the >>> future. >>> >>> >>> I believe that is what Google did, maybe 8:1 max split? >>> >>> >>> The temptation with GPON is to stretch it to the limits, which might >>> cause some re-splicing down the road if you want super high FDX. >>> >>> >>> AE doesn’t have that problem even with equipment a decade old I can >>> still supply the same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps each if I want to carry that >>> much on the backhaul. Equipment is super cheap, and it’s essentially >>> backwards compatible with GPON if your neighborhood runs are short like >>> mine. But again, lots of power is required. >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON >>> >>> >>> Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per wavelength and multiple >>> wavelengths all overlaid on GPON so nothing in the OSP has to change. All >>> the splitters etc still work. That will give everyone on the PON 312.5 >>> Mbps symmetrical all at the same time. So oversubscribing 3:1 you could >>> sell 1G symmetrical to everyone and probably not run out of headroom. >>> >>> >>> *From:* Carlos Alcantar >>> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM >>> >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON >>> >>> >>> to add to this post with the new PON technologies being released this >>> year giving everyone 1G FDX is going to be a non issue. >>> >>> >>> >>> Carlos Alcantar >>> >>> Race Communications / Race Team Member >>> >>> 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010 >>> >>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314 <%28415%29%20376-3314> / car...@race.com / >>> http://www.race.com >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of George Skorup < >>> george.sko...@cbcast.com> >>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON >>> >>> >>> I'm not really worried about POTS and RF. Everyone is using cell phones >>> and watching Netflix. >>> >>> The AE deployment is a total waste of equipment and resources for the >>> utilization we're seeing. I have to go there next week and turn up another >>> switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging less than 100Mbps every night. The >>> network owner was convinced that everyone had to have 1G FDX. They just >>> don't realize how much electronics and power is required for 1k ports. >>> There's less than 100 customers so far, so please, for the love of god, >>> lets fix this now! We'll see what happens. >>> >>> Anyway.. this project we're looking to do on our own is a neighborhood >>> of rich bitches. We already have PMP450 there and it works fine. They "want >>> more speed" and if they're willing to put up some cash for it, then we'll >>> build it. >>> >>> On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>> >>> Alphion does, yes. >>> >>> >>> On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> >>> What kind of costs are you talking? >>> Does it talk to ONTs? ONTs with POTS ports? >>> >>> Sterling is AE, I know his costs are pretty low. >>> -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup Sent: Saturday, March 04, >>> 2017 8:39 PM To: af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] >>> Small-scale GPON >>> >>> We're looking to do another "fiberhood" with GPON instead of AE this >>> time around. I remember Chuck Hogg mentioned Alphion. Has anyone deployed >>> the AOLT-4200? Looks like a good solution. Or what else have you used for >>> small deployments? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
