Fail. 

> On Oct 17, 2017, at 08:54, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Many of them start charging you regardless if you are on their system yet. 
> Once you sign the contract, you start paying.
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 6:00 PM Nathan Anderson <nath...@fsr.com> wrote:
>> ​I can understand this if the product in question is purchased/licensed for 
>> a one-time upfront fee.  However, if you have a SaaS model with recurring 
>> revenues, it seems like it would be in your best interest to help the 
>> customer move existing data over to your product cost-free, and thus get 
>> them to be a paying customer ASAP.
>> 
>> -- Nathan
>>  
>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Lewis Bergman 
>> <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 3:36 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sonar
>>  
>> Yea, this seems to be a common practice in the software industry. What they 
>> all should really say is that they help you convert. I am going through this 
>> with ECi at the moment. We paid several thousand for them to convert our 
>> database. What it really was was a half hearted gesture at putting the DB 
>> into an excel spreadsheet that they spent zero time checking for sanity. 
>> They expect us to do all that.
>> 
>> It seems that most software companies expect their customers to have a whole 
>> team of people doing what seems to be the software companies job. Not saying 
>> Sonar fits the description, just that that seems to be the rule not the 
>> exception.
>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 5:24 PM Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net> 
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Taking forever to migrate from Platypus to Sonar.
>>> 
>>> I was told conversion was free, but they didn't tell me I had to do all my 
>>> own conversion from Plat to Sonar, so in my mind that's not free.
>>> 
>>> I paid Spender Lambert to move some initial data to their format, but I've 
>>> been on a hold with Sonar since last month.
>>> 
>>> Super excited to get going with a 'modern' billing system, but so far the 
>>> process has been a total snoozer.
>>> 
>>> 

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