I'm ok with removing the "webcam setup" item.  I also didn't feel like
having it in there but didn't want to remove functionality you might be
used to.



Op wo, 03-05-2006 te 12:46 -0400, schreef Youness Alaoui:
> On Wed, 03 May 2006 10:25:00 -0400, Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
> 
> > Op di, 02-05-2006 te 20:32 -0400, schreef Youness Alaoui:
> >> Clear should be in edit, not chat...
> > I doubed this as this action clears the chat.  it's like in a
> > word-processor, if you want a new fresh file to start with, this command
> > is in "file".  Also it's more like "close chat" to start over so it's in
> > the same menu.  Though, it also "edits" the content you are working on
> > (the chat), I see why it could be a "Edit" candidate.  If it would be in
> > Edit, it would be the first action, then a speparator, then the
> > copy/paste actions ...
> 
> humm.. indeed.. but it's very confusing... in my brain, 'clear' is  
> something to edit the current window, not a 'file' thing, since we don't  
> open a new hat with someone, we dont' close SB, we dont' send anything  
> over SB, we just modify the current text widget...
> you see, those ambiguities are why I said the HIG is not enough to be used  
> as a design specs ;)
> 
> >>  I don't understand "New chat ..."
> >> what should it do ? same as "Send message" from actions menu in CL ?
> > exactly
> >> webcam setup doesn't have its place in edit menu...
> > Well, the HIG describes to put the "Preferences" item as last item in
> > the "Edit" menu.  As there are no "Chat preferences" I thought it would
> > be most naturally to put it here as it's also preferences.  Also I don't
> > think it fitts in "view", nor "chat" ofr "contact"
> 
> ok I understand, but I'm not ok with it, first because I don't think  
> preferences should go in 'Edit', maybe because we're talking about a  
> contact and we can't 'set it up' (maybe custom nick, etc...) but then I'm  
> not better than those who wrote the HIG, so I leave that to them and you  
> can ignore my personal feeling on this... but webcam prefs has nothing to  
> do with a 'chat window', it should be in the contact list menu.. compare  
> with MSN 7.5's menus.. I think we should mix up MSN7.5 menus with current  
> menus (more for functionality reasons, like chat style for ex.) and use  
> the HIG to glue all that together... webcam prefs shoudn't be in a chat  
> window menu imho.. but I understand why you did it and thx for the  
> explanation.
> 
> >> some stuff should be more explicit, like 'add to list' could become 'add
> >> all participants to my contact list'...
> > I just put 'a' name.  the "naming" itself is done buy the translator
> > anyway...
> >> humm... overall, I don't like how you have it set it up.. maybe I'm just
> >> wrong...  let's wait for more feedback.
> >> about having one document for all of it, that was my idea, glad we're on
> >> the same frequency! :) use the wiki for it, Tom could help you, he has
> >> great UI design skills, and he can provide mockups (for stuff other than
> >> the menus which are pretty explicit)
> >>
> >> KaKaRoTo
> >>
> >> On Tue, 02 May 2006 19:21:04 -0400, Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hmm .. this one misses "open saved files and fotos" which I should  
> >> place
> >> > underneath "view webcam history".
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Op wo, 03-05-2006 te 01:13 +0200, schreef Karel Demeyer:
> >> >> Hereby I present you my idea for a reorganisation of the chatwindow
> >> >> menus;  Please check this and discuss what you dislike.  As my  
> >> proposal
> >> >> for the cl-context menus, it follows the Gnome HIG.  If you like  
> >> these
> >> >> proposals, I'll do more of 'm and code 'm too.  I can bundle 'm in 1
> >> >> document so we have a reference guide if you want.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Karel.
> >> >>
> >> >> PS: the "hide window" is power users only as it is a Bad Feature (tm)
> >> >> imo as a user could accidently click it and might panick then  
> >> (though I
> >> >> know closing a chat ain't the end of the world).  I wanted to keep it
> >> >> for power users (made in the plugin) so nobody misses it.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Chat  Edit  View  Contact
> >> >> =========================
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ===Chat===
> >> >> New chat ...
> >> >> Save
> >> >> Clear
> >> >> ---
> >> >> Invite a user
> >> >> ---
> >> >> (Hide window) -> Power users only
> >> >> Close
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ===Edit===
> >> >> Cut
> >> >> Copy
> >> >> Paste
> >> >> ---
> >> >> Find
> >> >> Find Next
> >> >> Find Previous
> >> >> ---
> >> >> Webcam setup
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ===View===
> >> >> Emoticons
> >> >> Contact's dp
> >> >> ---
> >> >> chat-style
> >> >> text-size
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ===Contact===
> >> >> Send file/photo
> >> >> Ask to see webcam
> >> >> Invite to see my webcam
> >> >> Send a nudge
> >> >> ---
> >> >> View Chat history
> >> >> view Webcam History
> >> > view received files
> >> >> ---
> >> >> View profile
> >> >> Send e-mail
> >> >> Send SMS
> >> >> ---
> >> >> Set notes
> >> >> Set an alarm
> >> >> ---
> >> >> block
> >> >> add to list
> >> >> ---
> >> >> Properties
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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