On Mittwoch, 7. November 2007 11:11 Zhukov Pavel wrote: > 1) I know about Arch-Way.
And i hope you like it because your words sounds a little bit negative.-) > 2) Arch starts to accelerate developing process and growing up > repositories, however Devs/TUs count aren't growing - this way it becomes > more and more unstable. > Arch can be small but stable instead of big and unusable, since we have > limited numbers of Devs. > > 4) Pacman developers do strange things deaning DB-backends and continue to > develop ugly and very slow plaintext DB. > > 6) Fedora is not enterprise and there is no rpm-hell since fedora used yum. > yum+rpm even more simple to manage packages than pacman. And it's FASTER > than pacman! 2, 4 and 6 be one point because a PKGBUILD is readable AND understandable without spending hours (or days) of reading about how to create a specfile. This is first fantastic for every user and second the best way for a little distro as arch to go because normal users can create an PKGBUILD too or find something in it to help the maintainer in a better way than only saying after rpm -Uvh xyz.rpm (or smart upgrade --update or what else) my system fails. Annotation: I don't see where arch is "big and unusable" at the moment. > 5) As i write above, arch devs now are growing up arch repos, but dependency > problem still not resolved - e.g. most of resent problems can't be exists in > rpm distros since it updates will be deny by package manager. Dependencies be from my view never a problem of the used package format. It is a combination of time and discipline because in the most cases dependency errors happens for humanly reasons so it doesn't matter if it is pacman or rpm or dpkg. And for the example of redhat or some other enterprise distro you can say the reason for more stability in one word: MONEY. And because fedora is the little baby of redhat it is the same: We don't know what will happens with fedora if redhat will stop paying some devs. At least let me say one other thing: After being in holiday it happens that there be kernel, libs and kde updates with about 600 MB at the same time. I say, hmm, i try the same with suse and crash my system, but okay i give arch a try. And what happens? Yes, all works perfect without any trouble or little problem. I don't know what you have used in the past but saying rpm based distros be more stable is from my sight not true because we all be only humans and shit could happens on every platform.-) But i'm still again very much impressed from this big update without a problem. See you, Attila _______________________________________________ arch mailing list [email protected] http://archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
