Skip, you didn't even consider what I said to Corey. Your lack of consideration of what people say and avoidence of any analysis makes conversing with you nearly impossible.
Here is an example: Your last two posts assert that I was being "holier than thou" with Corey. If I had told him that I don't ever curse so he shouldn't either, that would be "holier than thou." Of course I said something different. I told Corey the standard (of not cursing) is a good thing. I didn't say I was a good thing. I clearly conceded that his friends at school, ME (that's right ME), and even he won't always meet that standard. That doesn't mean the standard is wrong and doesn't mean that he shouldn't try to meet the standard just because I don't or his friends don't. That isn't "holier than thou." Do you see how there is no connection between what I wrote and what you said I wrote? No, you don't, do you. You don't know how to analyze. You just make stuff up (like you made up that stuff about me writing John's letter). I told Corey anectdotally about my experience with a Judge to enforce that words are meaningful in life, and curse words can have consequences. I thought he should know that there are real life reasons not to take this lightly. How could you not support that message to a 12 year old? Are there no kids in your life that you care about? Nieces? Nephews? Aquaintences? Anyone? I can't believe you would take this moment, with Corey reading, to take jabs at me. How irresponsible. I'm very certain what I was relating to Corey is good for him to know. I bet his parents agree and the rest of the Board too, even my usual detractors. Your lack of real analysis and single-mindedness in just making juvenile-like fun of people make you a bore. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "…you will tell Corey that everything I put in my post to him is good > information for him to have and use. Won't you?" > > Tom you're a dinosaur. You're trapped in the myth that we can somehow > be what we say, rather than what we do and live. > > Your words present an excellent example of hypocrisy, insincerity by > virtue of pretending to have qualities or beliefs that you do not > have. You are not alone; it seems every generation faces this > dichotomy, wishing to shield the young from the lessons learned only > through living by presenting some sort of idealized blue print of how > life ought be. > > I don't condemn the intent merely the deceit. > > However, in your case you haven't the courage to even specify what you > choose to denounce, Corey alone must judge that. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Skip, so the message doesn't get lost, you will tell Corey that > > everything I put in my post to him is good information for him to > > have and use. Won't you? > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > "I once [said] a curse word to a lawyer. In hindsight, that curse > > > word accomplished nothing. All it did was make me look bad" > > > > > > So what did Tommy learn, not to avoid curse words but to condemn > > > others for using language he finds offensive, when it so suits > > him. > > > > > > What does Tommy find offensive? Any thing, word or event that he > > > can't control or dominate; our Tommy's holier than thou position is > > > very simple, do as I say not as I do. > > > > > > Sadly he learned this not in court but when he was much younger, > > say > > > about 11. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > Master Corey, > > > > > > > > I'm certain you hear some bad language at school. I was your > > age, > > > > and I have kids your age now. As you go through life you are > > going > > > > to hear some very rotten language in many places. It's > > unavoidable. > > > > I can't keep my own kids away from it as hard as I try. I hope > > you > > > > know that sometimes the standards in life that you want to live > > by > > > > aren't being observed by the people around you, like at school. > > > > Sometimes your own behavior won't meet the standards you set for > > > > yourself. That doesn't mean you should stop trying to meet > > those > > > > standards. You shold try even harder. > > > > > > > > I once got into some trouble with a Judge for saying a curse > > word to > > > > a lawyer. You know what? I regret it. In hindsight, that > > curse > > > > word accomplished nothing. It certainly didn't make that lawyer > > > > agree with me on what we were arguing about. In fact it pushed > > us > > > > further apart. All it did was make me look bad. > > > > > > > > I know you are going to curse sometime in your life. I probably > > > > will again too. Remember though that this Board is a public > > place. > > > > You will find that you give a much better account of yourself if > > you > > > > don't curse in public places. People will think more of you if > > you > > > > avoid those words. > > > > > > > > Now my admonishment to Skip was with you in mind, because as a > > > > parent I do think that adults have to show someone who is 12 the > > > > appropriate standards by example. I won't say something > > > > condescending to you like "You'll understand when you get > > older." > > > > I've listed to you on the radio and know you are an > > exceptionally > > > > bright young man, so I know you do understand already. I bet if > > you > > > > showed this to your parents they would agree with me. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm also willing to bet that you are going to be at that Tillie- > > Town > > > > festival this weekend with your folks. Hope you have a great > > time > > > > there, friend. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Corey Maccaro > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > No. Never. Our conversations at school make that letter look > > like > > > > a church. > > > > > > > > > > SKIP WROTE: > > > > > Re: "To what do you refer, `silly', `ass' or perhaps `damn'?" > > > > > > > > > > Corey thanks for the clarification. > > > > > > > > > > To what do you think Tom was referring and do you recall > > anyone of > > > > > your age getting bent out of shape over this language? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Corey Maccaro > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > A: I'm 12 > > > > > > B:I dont care if you curse. I don't care if I curse . Curse > > away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Corey Maccaro > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Patriarch of Humanity > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Corey Maccaro > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Patriarch of Humanity > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection > > around > > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
