I said at the outset I wouldn't bore the Group and get dragged into this. I did anyway.
My apologies to the Group. I'm giving you the last word Skip. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Your lack of real analysis and single-mindedness in just making > juvenile-like fun of people make you a bore." > > Well at least you're beginning to more directly express yourself; now > if I can just get you to take that leap and state the `word' that so > offended you. I'm surprised how slow you are to pickup on our basic > dilemma, we communicate in different languages, presume life to have > different meaning and perceive wholly different worlds; were one of us > female I would think she Venusian. > > What ever the case, I find writing to someone as dense as you an > interesting experience and will do so till you identify that which so > riled you; you silly ass. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Skip, you didn't even consider what I said to Corey. Your lack of > > consideration of what people say and avoidence of any analysis makes > > conversing with you nearly impossible. > > > > Here is an example: Your last two posts assert that I was > > being "holier than thou" with Corey. If I had told him that I don't > > ever curse so he shouldn't either, that would be "holier than thou." > > Of course I said something different. > > > > I told Corey the standard (of not cursing) is a good thing. I didn't > > say I was a good thing. I clearly conceded that his friends at > > school, ME (that's right ME), and even he won't always meet that > > standard. That doesn't mean the standard is wrong and doesn't mean > > that he shouldn't try to meet the standard just because I don't or > > his friends don't. That isn't "holier than thou." > > > > Do you see how there is no connection between what I wrote and what > > you said I wrote? No, you don't, do you. You don't know how to > > analyze. You just make stuff up (like you made up that stuff about > > me writing John's letter). > > > > I told Corey anectdotally about my experience with a Judge to > > enforce that words are meaningful in life, and curse words can have > > consequences. I thought he should know that there are real life > > reasons not to take this lightly. How could you not support that > > message to a 12 year old? Are there no kids in your life that you > > care about? Nieces? Nephews? Aquaintences? Anyone? > > > > I can't believe you would take this moment, with Corey reading, to > > take jabs at me. How irresponsible. I'm very certain what I was > > relating to Corey is good for him to know. I bet his parents agree > > and the rest of the Board too, even my usual detractors. > > > > Your lack of real analysis and single-mindedness in just making > > juvenile-like fun of people make you a bore. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > "…you will tell Corey that everything I put in my post to him is > > good > > > information for him to have and use. Won't you?" > > > > > > Tom you're a dinosaur. You're trapped in the myth that we can > > somehow > > > be what we say, rather than what we do and live. > > > > > > Your words present an excellent example of hypocrisy, insincerity > > by > > > virtue of pretending to have qualities or beliefs that you do not > > > have. You are not alone; it seems every generation faces this > > > dichotomy, wishing to shield the young from the lessons learned > > only > > > through living by presenting some sort of idealized blue print of > > how > > > life ought be. > > > > > > I don't condemn the intent merely the deceit. > > > > > > However, in your case you haven't the courage to even specify what > > you > > > choose to denounce, Corey alone must judge that. > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Skip, so the message doesn't get lost, you will tell Corey that > > > > everything I put in my post to him is good information for him > > to > > > > have and use. Won't you? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > "I once [said] a curse word to a lawyer. In hindsight, that > > curse > > > > > word accomplished nothing. All it did was make me look bad" > > > > > > > > > > So what did Tommy learn, not to avoid curse words but to > > condemn > > > > > others for using language he finds offensive, when it so suits > > > > him. > > > > > > > > > > What does Tommy find offensive? Any thing, word or event that > > he > > > > > can't control or dominate; our Tommy's holier than thou > > position is > > > > > very simple, do as I say not as I do. > > > > > > > > > > Sadly he learned this not in court but when he was much > > younger, > > > > say > > > > > about 11. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Master Corey, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm certain you hear some bad language at school. I was your > > > > age, > > > > > > and I have kids your age now. As you go through life you are > > > > going > > > > > > to hear some very rotten language in many places. It's > > > > unavoidable. > > > > > > I can't keep my own kids away from it as hard as I try. I > > hope > > > > you > > > > > > know that sometimes the standards in life that you want to > > live > > > > by > > > > > > aren't being observed by the people around you, like at > > school. > > > > > > Sometimes your own behavior won't meet the standards you set > > for > > > > > > yourself. That doesn't mean you should stop trying to meet > > > > those > > > > > > standards. You shold try even harder. > > > > > > > > > > > > I once got into some trouble with a Judge for saying a curse > > > > word to > > > > > > a lawyer. You know what? I regret it. In hindsight, that > > > > curse > > > > > > word accomplished nothing. It certainly didn't make that > > lawyer > > > > > > agree with me on what we were arguing about. In fact it > > pushed > > > > us > > > > > > further apart. All it did was make me look bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know you are going to curse sometime in your life. I > > probably > > > > > > will again too. Remember though that this Board is a public > > > > place. > > > > > > You will find that you give a much better account of > > yourself if > > > > you > > > > > > don't curse in public places. People will think more of you > > if > > > > you > > > > > > avoid those words. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now my admonishment to Skip was with you in mind, because as > > a > > > > > > parent I do think that adults have to show someone who is 12 > > the > > > > > > appropriate standards by example. I won't say something > > > > > > condescending to you like "You'll understand when you get > > > > older." > > > > > > I've listed to you on the radio and know you are an > > > > exceptionally > > > > > > bright young man, so I know you do understand already. I > > bet if > > > > you > > > > > > showed this to your parents they would agree with me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm also willing to bet that you are going to be at that > > Tillie- > > > > Town > > > > > > festival this weekend with your folks. Hope you have a > > great > > > > time > > > > > > there, friend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Corey Maccaro > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > No. Never. Our conversations at school make that letter > > look > > > > like > > > > > > a church. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SKIP WROTE: > > > > > > > Re: "To what do you refer, `silly', `ass' or perhaps > > `damn'?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Corey thanks for the clarification. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To what do you think Tom was referring and do you recall > > > > anyone of > > > > > > > your age getting bent out of shape over this language? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Corey Maccaro > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > A: I'm 12 > > > > > > > > B:I dont care if you curse. 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