"I know who he was. One of the Wilson brothers from the Beach Boys!"

You're confusing August with Ringo.



--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know who he was. One of the Wilson brothers from the Beach Boys! 
> <];~)
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 10/3/05 4:27 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Gary please don't mistake my question for an assertion.  I've 
> taken
> > > no position here.  I'm just trying to understand what you are
> > > saying. I still need an answer.  Why does a place like Great
> > > Adventure thrive financially with no government subsidy, yet
> > > theaters and art districts, which you maintain are "big draws" 
> need
> > > subsidy?
> >  
> > I guess you have to look at the bigger picture.  Why do trashy 
> television
> > shows get better ratings than shows that try to make a statement?  
> Why do
> > trashy novels sell more than pure literature?
> > 
> > One could say that in a free market society that this is a good 
> thing;
> > however, why is it that schools will include great literature in 
> their
> > classrooms but ignore the trashy novels that outsell those books 6-
> 1? Could
> > it be because it's part of a greater good?  I think so.  I think 
> that's why
> > the government tries to help businesses get off of the ground.
> > 
> > Let's face it, Six Flags is part of a gigantic corporation that 
> can afford
> > to run tons of ads down the throats of the masses while a normal 
> theatre
> > cannot ever expect to do so.  While there is a lot of costs to 
> running an
> > amusement park or a Fortune 500 company, there are plenty of costs 
> involved
> > in running a theatre (as you, more than most, are aware of). In 
> addition to
> > rent, there are hefty utility costs, salaries to stagehands, 
> directors,
> > actors, lighting crews, stage designers, marketers, etc.  
> Unfortunately, you
> > would be very, very hard-pressed to survive at $20-$50 ticket 
> prices.  And
> > that's the rub.
> > 
> > Theatre exists to show the good and bad of society.  It is our 
> truth teller.
> > It's our pathway from the past to the present and where we are 
> headed.
> > Theatre tries to do this at a price that people can afford.  
> Sometimes it
> > may seem expensive, but when compared to what a normal business 
> would have
> > to charge to make a profit (or just survive) it is a bargain.  But 
> that
> > bargain comes with a price.  It means tons of fundraising, begging 
> everyone
> > from single subscribers to giant corporations to the government.
> > 
> > And the government plays the smallest role of any of them.  It 
> plays a
> > necessary role, but a small one.  Theatres have been forced to find
> > alternative sources for 96-98% of their operating budget.
> > 
> > What does it cost per person to subsidize PBS?  It's a 
> meaninglessly small
> > number.  I don't care if you never watch PBS, if you're gonna 
> complain about
> > what the government subsidizes towards arts & culture than you 
> better go
> > through the budget and pick out the thousands of other things that 
> have no
> > bearing on your life and complain about those as well.
> > 
> > Subsidization may sound awful, but it happens in almost every 
> industry.  Why
> > do people feel bad about the poor farmer who's got a decision 
> about selling
> > the family farm for a couple of million dollars to a developer who 
> wants to
> > put up a shopping mall but they hate the fact that artists are 
> being helped?
> >  
> > Maybe the problem is that America shoots for the lowest common 
> denominator.
> > We despise our European roots because they still believe in things 
> like art
> > & culture as defining a society.  We fail to understand how there 
> could be
> > Muslims who are so offended by what we call art these days that 
> they want
> > our society to be wiped out.  To MOST OF THE WORLD, arts & culture 
> is how
> > they want to be remembered.  I guess Americans would rather be 
> remembered
> > for how well their stock did today.  We don't think of legacies or 
> legends;
> > heroes or people who changed the world.  We think of immediate
> > gratification.
> > 
> > August Wilson passed away yesterday.  In some places around the 
> world, I
> > expect there is a significant loss being felt.  It's a shame that 
> 99% of the
> > people in America have no idea who Wilson was.  And that's why the 
> arts
> > should be subsidized in my opinion.  Because men like August 
> Wilson have
> > done so much for society that people SHOULD know about them 
> instead of
> > having them linger in obscurity... While we linger in ignorance.




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