Okay, but Jack's original post to which I was responding was
complaining about (along with some aesthetic issues) the lack of
adherence to agreements. He mentioned the bandshell. Apparently
(according to Maureen's tape of the council meeting several weeks
back) MM/Partners or some derivation thereof was supposed to, as part
of the WRA, have at least started to restore the bandshell to working
order by this summer. That hasn't happened and doesn't look like it
ever will. So there's an example of a promise made and broken with,
apparently, no explanation for the citizenry on whose behalf the city
signed the WRA.
I don't think this is about being ballsy with someone else's money.
If in fact the economic downturn has caused a delay in construction,
that's perfectly legitimate and understandable. But why can't the
developer send a representative to the council meeting and explain to
the council, with the citizenry listening, why that delay is
happening and what the company is doing to address it? Instead,
Werner asks a perfectly legitimate question and is rebuffed (by
Sammett was it?) with some obfuscation about plans being "supplanted"
and no visible effort on the part of the council to demand a public
explanation from MM/Partners.
Remember also that, unless I'm mistaken, the WRA doesn't stipulate
that once all the pavilions and the Casino are rebuilt and making
money that MM donate them all back to the city and leave town like
some good Samaritan. Unlike an individual homeowner, this is a
multimillion dollar company with dozens of develoments throughout the
country. They're in town to make money - lots of it - for a very,
very long time. And if they do, it will be because the city (again,
on behalf of the citizenry) provided them that opportunity. So why
doesn't MM/Partners show as much deference toward their hosts as the
hosts have shown toward them? Everyone who lives or owns a business
in Asbury Park has the right to expect the city council to hold
MM/Partner accountable when it comes to signed agreements, regardless
of whether they rent or own.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dsher4" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> No, obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion. And in some
> cases the suggestions are good. I'm just pointing out that i have
> noticed a trend on this board. Generally, the people who have put
a
> lot of time and money into their homes in the town are cautiously
> optimistic while those who don't, do the most complaining. I think
> the group that has invested time and money realizes that things
take
> time because they have experience with that in their own places.
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <hinge98@> wrote:
> >
> > So, because it's other people's money means it's ok to do sneaky
> things like eliminate a
> > historic band shell, and allow ugly, pedestrian architecture.
> > I didn't realize life was that simple and without accountability.
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dsher4" <dsher4@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Jack,
> > >
> > > Buy an old house in AP and use your dollars to bring it back to
> its
> > > historical past. Its easier to have balls with someone else's
> > > money.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <hinge98@>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The city council, but it feels like they are under the MM
> spell.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandpiper15"
> <sandpiper15@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <hinge98@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > MM is getting away with it because nobody is putting
> pressure
> > > on them
> > > > > to explain
> > > > > > what happened.
> > > > >
> > > > > That seems to be the common thread in many different
> > > frustrations and
> > > > > controversies. So whose responsibility is it to call them
> out?
> > > And
> > > > > whose responsibility is it to call THOSE people out for not
> > > calling MM
> > > > > out?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
------------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links
<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/
<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional
<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join
(Yahoo! ID required)
<*> To change settings via email:
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
