I, however, doubt very much if a Shiv Sena like approach to things ever helps.
*** I agree that it does not.
But it all boils down to one thing: There is no sense of one nation. Each different entity is out to protect its own turf, in whatever way it is possible.
Compound the problem with an absence of a functioning state machinery that can resolve such issues fairly and timely.
Therein lies the living-in-denial of the pan-Indianist middle class who have it made. They have little to be concerned about and thus can talk of bigger things, like getting respect from the world as a power of some sort, if not a super one, even if it means doing so on the backs of the insecure who they never hesitate to deride so.
At 6:10 PM -0800 12/20/04, Rajib Das wrote:
Dear Mr. Chetia,
All I pointed out was that the AASU was instrumental in beating up Bihari candidates (from Assamese newspaper reports). And so was the Shiv Sena. That was the similarity.
For the record, I support the view that jobs in the lower level for federal organizations should go to local candidates.
I, however, doubt very much if a Shiv Sena like approach to things ever helps.
Rajib
--- Prasenjit Chetia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Although the name hasDear Mr. Das; What AASU did with the jobseekers was a debated issue and if you see all the underlying truth it was a counter attack to a big conspiracy which the big bosses of railways did for their kins of bihar. Biharis were called all over india for interviews, does it happen the same way in bihar, no it is not. I was doing a project of UTS implemented under the whims and fancies of Nitish Kumar, the then railways minister who competed Ram Vilas Paswan. They had setup railway division HQs is danapur and patna with huge investments which are only 2hrs apart in distance. These favortism goes on and it is a long story. The beating up issue is only a pitfall. I don't think , anybody could have stopped the guys from bihar to appear in guwahati where the boys from assam or entire NE seeking the same were not called for appearing the exam with no reason to explain.
I think if you have to save your existence, you have to be a little bit of "jatiatabadi". All others have that, otherwise you will have to leave your identity and forget what you were.
Prasenjit
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:50:09 -0800 (PST), Rajib Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Isn't the Assam Sena a rip off of the obviously > original one - Shiv Sena of Bal Thackeray? I don't > know where the emulation will begin from - but in its > essence it is a fire and brimstone Hindu chauvinist > party (and earlier, beating up of the "madrasis" in > Mumbai). The 2 constant factors in the party was/is to > use street power to hit at opponents of various hues > and the party president for life with absolute powers > for life. The other thing was the constant over the > ground extortion business that the Shiv Sena indulged > in. > > AASU and Shiv Sena have had similarilities in the > recent past - the latest one being the beating up of > Bihari job seekers in Railways. > > I wonder what the liberals on this board would say > about such an idealogy, if indeed Assam Sena has such > an idealogy. I also wonder whether some of them would > be ok with such an idealogy in Assam when they are on > the right side of the spectrum. > > Finally it is a bit ironic - the original Sena (Aka > the Shiv Sena) is somewhat on geriatric row what with > Bal Thackeray being old and ill and their street thugs > being outnumbered by others in Mumbai because the city > has moved on. > > Rajib > > --- J Kalita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am glad that an "Assam Army" is being formed.> > the word "Army" in it, it is essentially a
peaceful
> > movement trying to
> > protect the interests of Assam and the
inhabitants
> > of Assam. The
> > interests of Assam and the inhabitants of Assam
are
> > in many ways in
> > odds with the interests of India and the
> > inhabitants of India, and in
> > fifty five years of independence from the
British,
> > India has not been
> > able to figure out a formula to balance the two.
So,
> > we need some home
> > grown movement to do so. I would urge the "Assam
> > Army" (Oxom Xenaa) not
> > work by emphasizing strikes, bandhs, etc., but
> > possibly study
> > successful movements for independence such as
that
> > of India, Israel,
> > East Timor and other nations. In particular,
> > although, I am completely
> > opposed to the policies of the current and past
> > Israeli governments, it
> > behooves us to see what they did to obtain
> > independence. A part of that
> > strategy was to make the "desert bloom" through
> > efforts such as 1)
> > kibbutzes where groups of individuals worked on
> > farms and small-scale
> > farming based industries, 2) gathering money and
> > resources and buying
> > off tracts of land and other properties, etc. In
> > Assam, the "Oxom
> > Xenaa" could work on similar constructive
projects
> > with long-term goals
> > in mind.
> >
> > It is wise to talk about "Assam", "The Assam
> > Nation",
> > "The Nation of Assam", etc., instead of talking
> > about "The Assamese",
> > "The Assamese Nation", etc.
> > The former encompasses everyone in Assam whereas
the
> > latter encompasses
> > the people whose mother tongue is "Assamese".
> >
> > Jugal Kalita
> > On Monday, December 20, 2004, at 01:11 AM,
Alpana B.
> > Sarangapani wrote:
> >
> > > From "The Assam Tribune":
> > >
> > > http://www.assamtribune.com/dec2004/at01.html
> > >
> > > From "Oxomiya Pratidin":
> > >
> > > http://www.pratidinassam.com/dec2004/ap01.html
> > >
> > >
> > > > > >
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