Aw Prosenjit, I was just being sarcastic :-).
BTW, why are not the 'dog-eating' or 'cannibal tribals' Umesh allude to not our brethren? Are 'pure vegetarians' from the NW or the South of the Indian sub-continent our real brethren? And why is eating deep fried Muga larvae ( muga leta) such an uncivilized thing that we are afraid to confront it when waved at us by Hindu zealots ? Is not rth Indian incest more acceptable? Or is treating Dalits like they do in Tamil Nadu more acceptable?
Also WHO are the 'cannibals' you agree with Umesh on? I have heard a lot of things, read a lot too, but Assamese cannibals or Bengali or NE cannibals I missed. Who are those? Where were they from, if they do not exist any more?
cm
At 2:36 AM -0400 5/3/05, Prasenjit Chetia wrote:
Am i trying to give him a hard time. Umesh knows what he is upto. Pls don't feed him with your logics which are going absurd day by day. I was just trying to caution him from distractions like discussions of eating beef and banning it. If he thinks (or you think) banning cow slaughter is what hindutwa is he is wrong. Hindutwa is far more than that. And you mislead him with that saying that a noble goal.
Now all know the truth about cannibals in NE. I have many friends whose forefathers were such. And if you think they still do that, you are in a different world. And also pls tell me from when they had become your brothers ? Are they really. Do you see them the way they need to be.
I don't discourage Umesh in his aims. But would sure like to caution him from minds like yours who aim to entangle people with linguistic skills (which I aprreciate) and mislead them.
Now you may put me on trial ? But I will rufuse to accept it. Is that fair enough ?
Prasenjit
On 5/2/05, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >like any other dish. What's there to discuss ? As I said earlier thereHi Prasenjit:
Umesh is only saying things that are/were true. That some of our brethren in the NE are cannibals or eat dogs. Obviously the movie-maker Mani-what's-his-name was only talking about unpleasant truths in the now banned film, Tango Charlie, because he portrayed Bodos as cannibals.
Can't you handle the truth? Why are you trying to divert attention away from them cannibal, dog-eating, head-hunting, loin-cloth sporting tribals who prefer that damned Christianity over Umesh's Hinduism? He hasn't labeled YOU a trial yet, has he? Besides, what is wrong in that label anyway?
Umesh came to Assam Net to show you and me what civilization is all about. He realizes we , north-easterners, are like what we are because Hinduttwa never touched us. So he came to propagate the Hindu identity and Hinduttwa as he sees it, with the zeal of a Christian Missionary, who has been so successful in winning the NE over to them X-ians. He realized that we are disaffected because we were treated like dogs in a Hindu household. So he has been trying to let us into their Hinduttwa home. His is a noble goal. Don't give him a hard time.
Umesh has told us it is perfectly OK to eat human corpses, or dogs, or crickets, or snakes. Why should we feel defensive about it? He does not feel defensive about the culture of those who suck the blood of live people ( I mean metaphorically), or dowry burning, or sati-daah, or public corruption, or religious intolerance. He is always saying all those nice things of Dalits, even wants Mira Nair to make movies about them instead of making movies that put their culture in a bad light as in Monsoon Wedding. Imagine she had to go show family incest, and pre-marital sex and desi-hypocrisy, How shameless!
cm :-)
At 9:47 PM -0400 5/2/05, Prasenjit Chetia wrote: >On the contrary i don't find any reason to discuss cows and pigs >either. If you eat it that's good, you eat it as food which you eat> >on silly things. We have a long way to go bro.>are many more important things other than silly matters to discuss. >You are a student like I am. So we should not misuse our precious time>> >> >
>
>Regards
>Prasenjit
>
>On 5/2/05, umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I think our discussion had veered towards what animals are being eaten in
>> India and where. Someone mentioned what about Mijoram and Meghalaya.
>>
>> I am highlighting that dogs, "gaur" (cow/buffalo) and other animals have
>> been traditionally eaten by atleast some of the tribals of those regions
>> --but I also wish to highlighht/stress that eating such animals is not a
>> peculiarity or shameful -as such a point was raised -or atleast it seemed to
>> me so.
>>
>> People all over the world do it.
>>
>> Umesh
>> PS: Maybe we should stick to only cows and pigs discussion
>>
>> Prasenjit Chetia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What's great about it Umesh. Are you researching on some cuisine,
>> which are rarely found. I didn't get the context on which you
>> forwarded the links.
>>
>> Prasenjit
>>
>> On 5/2/05, umesh sharma wrote:
>> > Here are some websites about how people all over the world have been
>> eating
>> > insects, dogs and a variety of animals:
>> >
>> > Eating Insects in Thailand
>> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/A767252
>> >
>> > Insects as Food for Humans
>> >
>> > http://www.si.edu/resource/faq/nmnh/buginfo/inasfood.htm
>> >
>> > For Most People, Eating Bugs Is Only Natural
>> >
>> >
>>
>>http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0715_040715_tvinsectfood.html
>> >
>> > Taste like chicken: US govt
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/kids/weirdscience/story5/insecteaters.htm
>> >
>> > BBC: Eating Insects and Grubs
>> >
>> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A476859
>> >
>> > Dog etc eating in East Asia
> > >
>> > http://www.admh.org/index1.htm
>> >
>> > Dog Farms:
>> > http://www.animalsasia.org/index.php?module=3&lg=en
>> >
>> > Dog eating in Hawaii:
>> > http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1348432/posts
>> >
>> > Dog eating by French:
>> > http://wolf.ok.ac.kr/~annyg/english/e6.htm
>> >
>> > Dog Eating by Swiss:
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.europeanvegetarian.org/evu/english/news/news964/dogs.html
>> >
>> > Stop Dog eating:
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.animalfreedom.org/english/column/dogmeattrade.html
>> >
>> > Dog meat festival:
>> > http://www.seoulsearching.com/DogMeat.html
>> >
>> > Astronauts may eat insects:
>> >
>>
>>http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/headline_universe/space_insects.html&edu=high
>> >
>> > Counter Point: http://www.koreananimals.org/kerr1.htm
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > umesh sharma wrote:
>> > Amlan-da,
>> >
>> > I am sorry if I hurt your feelings, but when someone questions why you do
>> > not want cows to be killed - or that most Hindus do not want cows to be
>> > killed - I gave a frank answer. I also mentioned that Hindus have among
>> them
>> > - Tantriks who eat human flesh ---if you consider that I am glorifying
>> > cannibalism - well it is your view.
>> >
>> > The fact is that the tribals ( I assume you are from Assam - and not a
>> > tribal) from various parts of North East -till recently atleast -- have
>> been
>> > eating dogs and other animals -- just like the Chinese. I never said that
>> it
>> > is good or bad. You made the judgement.
>> >
>> > Umesh
>> > PS: personally I can eat anything - unless ofcourse you tell is me what it
>> > is --maybe even dogs and cats and rats!!
>> >
>> > Amlan Saha wrote:
>>
>> > Why do you always reek of the attitude that your culture or what is
>> > practised in your religion or in the part of India that you come from
>> > is the most superior or the supposedly right way of doing things?> >> >>> > The questions you ask definitely have academic and research value but >> > you do not at all seem to be genuine in your inquest, at least not to >> > me.>> > Amlan.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2 May 2005, at 22:41, umesh sharma wrote:
>> >
>> > > People in North East and other tribal areas might have been eating all
>> > > animals, maybe even tigers and deer, who am I to question?
>> >
>> > > I don't care if anyone likes to eat rats or cockroaches - I think in
>> > > South East Asia it is a delicacy.
>> >
>> >
>> >
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