The local policeman got me to drive him around the block the day I turned 16
and after that I was an independent operator and passenger rated. :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Al Borowski
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 12:58 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] L2 Independent Ops
I don't think this is strictly true, in Qld at least - "If you are
under 25 you will need to record at least 100 hours of supervised
driving ". Driving with a professional instructor counts for triple
for the first ten hours.
L2 requires 100 hours of /Command/ time, and power time only counts
for 10%. There is no age-related exemption.
I'm happy to be corrected, I didn't get my license under the current system.
Cheers,
Al
On 11/02/2017, Stuart Wolf <stuac...@gmail.com> wrote:
Since people insist on making a car licence analogy, you require 20 hours
MORE to be issued a car licence than an L2.
On Saturday, February 11, 2017, Richard Frawley <rjfraw...@gmail.com>
wrote:
as a holder of a PPL as well, I agree. If there is extra training needed
in the GPC syllabus then so be it.
If on the annual check there are a few more things to tick off as well
that is also fine.
I would be very interested to hear from any CFI's on the list as to what
are the risks being mitigated by having both L1 and L2 ops in place. How
does having a L2 instructor around help mitigate with those risks?
Richard
> On 11 Feb 2017, at 12:55 AM, Al Borowski <al.borow...@gmail.com
<javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> I'd like to see the GPC give the same rights as L2 Independent Ops,
> but only require a checkride to maintain it (just like PPL/RAA)
> instead of being reliant on a CFI's annual blessing. If a GPC pilot
> isn't considered good enough to be responsible for their own actions,
> something is terribly wrong with the training system.
>
> A driver's license is yours until you do something silly to lose it,
> and you are responsible for your own driving. The same goes for
> PPL/RAA, boating, and a huge pile of other activities. Just like these
> activities, equipment owners/clubs are free to place whatever
> additional requirements they want on the use of their facilities.
>
> If a GPC holder can't be trusted to be responsible for their own
> operations then they should never have been given a GPC.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Al
>
>
>> On 10/02/2017, Simon Rammelt <monkeypaws...@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
wrote:
>> please explain the changes you want to make.
>>
>>> On 10 Feb 2017 1:40 pm, "Richard Frawley" <rjfraw...@gmail.com
<javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have had an initial positive response from the GFA in terms of
>>> making
>>> changes to the L2 Indi Ops. To help get further traction i need a
>>> pilot
>>> from WA, TAS, Vic, NT and QLD to put a common request to their
>>> appropriate
>>> State Bodies. (such is the way things need to work).
>>>
>>> Bernard has already offered for SA and I live in NSW.
>>>
>>> I am happy to host some Go To Meeting conference calls to kick things
off
>>> once we have a quorum. We can have more than one rep.
>>>
>>> Look forward to seeing if we make a positive outcome here.
>>>
>>> Please drop me an email if you are able to help.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
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