I'm told that when emergency services attend a road crash involving young people they routinely check the boot for occupants. Some of the restrictions may be counter productive.

Yes, a few years ago was talking to a young bloke who was helping out at Aerotec and two hours later he was dead in a car with a few mates. Left a party to get in under curfew, driver took off flat out, lost control immediately. Two in boot.

Now young drivers is one thing but what has been the effect of more supervision/hours required on say people 30+ years old who learn to drive for the first time? We are likely to see more of these if what I read about youth and cars on the net is correct. Then you may be able to break out the youth/hormones effect from the supervision effect.

Mike






At 02:15 PM 2/11/2017, you wrote:
There is, most certainly good evidence for the effectiveness of supervision as a driving risk mitigation approach, and quite a lot of it (speaking as a road safety researcher). That's one part of what's been behind the evolution of the modern Australian graduated driver licensing system - more time supervised, restrictions to reduce amount of time in statistically high-risk situations (e.g. driving after midnight, driving with a bunch of mates in the car, etc etc.)

As someone with a background in road safety (and novice driver safety in particular), and also as a recently-solo glider pilot, I personally have no problem with the system of frequent checks and lots of instructor support for less experienced pilots such as myself. Is it useful for more-experienced pilots? I don't know, but if we compare the accident rate for gliders with the GA accident rate, how do we compare? I suspect our check-flights-and-instructors system does help reduce some kinds of accidents, particularly for newer pilots and those who haven't flown for a while. Does it help for the others? No clue.


Teal

On 11 Feb 2017, at 2:05 pm, Paul Bart <<mailto:pb2...@gmail.com>pb2...@gmail.com> wrote:


On 11 February 2017 at 13:08, Stuart Wolf <<mailto:stuac...@gmail.com>stuac...@gmail.com> wrote:


But what the evidence shows is more supervised hours, not less are an effective risk mitigation strategy, as is ongoing validation. Especially around the experience danger zone. There is a reason the state licensing went with 80, 100 and 120 hours


​So there is an actual evidence to show this, properly corrected for variables that may have also produced this results. Better cars, roads come to mind, I am sure there are others.

Are there less accidents for drivers certified under the new system? .

Cheers

Paul​


Cheers

Paul
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