Good on ya David.  Keep up the humour. Rob Izatt must got out of bed on the wrong side. :-) 
 
PeterS
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Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:43 PM
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] GFA taking legal action against Air Services???

yes, of course it was a smart arse response! :)
 
It was a good way of me introducing myself, letting people know we shouldn't be overly serious (or personal) and we are all here to have fun after all, and flying is what it is all about.
 
And to let people on the list know I am quite happy to keep them up to date with what's happening in our GFA and also to take their comments back to the Exec as well.
 
As long as it's all constructive, then I am all for the best communication possible between the GFA and it's members.
 
In the past I have certainly been critical of the apparent distance between the members and the GFA, and now that I can do something about it, I will.
 
 
cheers
 
David


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boonahgliding
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2004 3:46 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] GFA taking legal action against Air Services???

this is this type of smart arse response that will engender a deep love of the gfa council.
i would like to know what was happening at the gfa level.
firstly after reading the annual financial report why is the rate of return on the funds invested so appallingly low??
any club which is waiting for the gfa to kickstart their operation is kidding themselves. i don't believe this is their job.
rob izatt
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From: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] GFA taking legal action against Air Services???
Date: 15/09/04 15:55


Hi Robert

You may remember me from Waikerie; hoping to see you at Waikerie this
January as well, with Alice this time. Should be a good show.

Well, on the weekend I managed to appoint myself as GFA Executive Vice
President, of course only for my own self-serving and lunatic agenda.

I am prepared however to be involved in discussions on this list and keep
you up to date with what "the GFA" is scheming and plotting to your
detriment, and likewise if you have any issues that you would like taken
direct to the GFA Executive, then please by all means let me know and I
promise to ignore them. :)

I can give you an update on the airspace shortly when the facts are all to
hand.

Cheers

David
GFA EVP




-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Hart
Sent: Monday, 13 September 2004 8:24 PM
To: Soaring in Australia.
Cc: DDSC chat; cgc
Subject: [Aus-soaring] GFA taking legal action against Air Services???

Hi

I am told that the GFA is taking legal action against Air Services Australia
over the airspace rollback.

I am absolutely flabbergasted by this as it has been my understanding that
in the past we have been able to negotiate the issues that arose as a result
of changes. There were many of these when the new airspace system was
brought in last year and I am not aware of any that were unresolved through
negotiation.

Now it appears that the GFA is wasting our money in a legal action against
Air Services - which has access to legal and financial resources that will
swamp us.

What is the purpose of the legal action? What do we stand to win - and just
how likely is it that we can win?

Is the GFA executive deliberately trying to squander our resources - those
resources that they repeatedly refuse to use for the real benefit of the
gliding community? Have they reached such levels of arrogance that they
really believe, not only that they are right, but they can win such a
battle?

I doubt that we will hear anything about this from the self-appointed,
self-serving lunatics currently at the helm of the GFA; until, that is, we
are faced with a financial statement showing hundreds of thousands of
dollars of OUR money spent on legal fees - for zero result (or worse).

However, I know that this list is 'monitored' by the GFA cabal - so how
about doing something completely different and actually tell us, the
membership to whom you have duties, obligations and responsibilities, what
you are doing and why.

And I don't mean the empty clap trap you decided to publish in the last two
magazines when suddenly faced with a credible opposition to your cosy
re-election of one another. We are currently being fed enough such bullshit
by the professional politicians without it invading our recreation.

We are big boys and girls: how about telling us the truth, the whole truth
and nothing but the truth - for a change?

--
Robert Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+61 (0)438 385 533
Brisbane, Australia http://www.hart.wattle.id.au

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