Sorry to bring up a topic from a while ago, but I'm not a regular emailer :D so ignore it if you like.
>It's simple. >There is "Climate Change", there always has been "Climate Change". there was >an Ice Age and the earth is going through a >warming cycle that has been going >on since the last Ice Age. >Will there be another Ice Age. Probably yes. >But will the warming cycle continue for a while? Probably yes. Unfortunately, the current rate of warming is approximately double any rate recorded subsequent to any previous ice age. I refer to three articles showing the effects of natural climate changes in the past, the current climate change situation, and predictions for the future: http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/science/pastcc.html http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/science/recentcc.html http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/science/futurecc.html A far stronger link, however, becomes evident as you observe this rate of warming alongside the rate of increase in CO2 emissions since the industrial revolution; both follow an exponential curve. Henceforth ends a fruitless email, because those people who refute climate change when it's right in front of their nose obviously have economic or workplace compulsions to do so, and will not change their opinion, regardless of how much pesky evidence is waved under their nose. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Geoff Kidd Sent: Tue 12/4/2007 11:18 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Climate change. It's simple. There is "Climate Change", there always has been "Climate Change". there was an Ice Age and the earth is going through a warming cycle that has been going on since the last Ice Age. Will there be another Ice Age. Probably yes. But will the warming cycle continue for a while? Probably yes. Has mankind contributed to it? Probably yes. Would the warming cycle have stopped if naughty mankind hadn't been here? Probably no. Will the whacko's continue self fladulation, no matter what the scientists discover? Definitely yes. Will any scientist who is presently un or under-funded be prepared to stick his snout in the funding trough by being a Climate Change proponent? Definitely yes. Will the self appointed thought (& carbon) police try to control those who have fun with petrocarbon instead of saving the rainforest. Definitely yes. Should we make the most of the warming climate? Definitely yes .......... and with luck Mike will need to adjust the scale on his varios to allow for stronger thermals. Will the idiots continue to jump in the kayaks and blockade Newcastle harbour to prevent coal exports .... while opposing a nuclear power generation alternative. Definitely yes. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew Gage To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Climate change. A slightly different perspective. I will let the scientists argue this out until one side or the other shows they are right. I'm not qualified to try and decide for myself. However, looking at the Titanic (bear with me !) The engineers claimed the ship was unsinkable, so believing this, the company didn't bother with life boats for all, and could have been even more foolish and not insured against sinking (why bother, it can't happen). Having been proven wrong, hindsight is fantastic - lets have more life boats and have insurance, oh and don't steam full speed in fog into a known active iceberg area - but completely useless. It's too late. Back to climate change. We can act as if nothing is happening, or we can act as if change is real. We do nothing, or we reduce the burn of fossil fuels dramatically. We really need to look at the consequences of either side being wrong. Acting as if nothing is happening means that IF the no change argument is lost (change is real), then it's too late to do anything (we sunk and didn't have a rescue plan). Acting as if change is real means that IF the change argument is lost (change is not happening), then all we risk is spending more money than we might have coming up with alternative useable energy sources. But we would have had to do this eventually anyway ! _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
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