On 24/12/2014 8:41 PM, Colin Collum wrote:

G'day All,


One of the ironies of gliding seems to be that modern sleek gliders are not only faster in virtually every sense, they are also safer in that many of them are much less likely to spin, but unfortunately our novice pilot can't be guaranteed to always fly an aircraft that won't spin.

I was instructing a girl in the front seat of a Twin Astir and said to her: "Twin Astirs just mush instead of spinning" To my surprise, she managed to spin it easily (because of her light weight) and it required full opposite rudder to stop it as well as easing the stick forward and a very steep dive enough for a loop.

I was in a Ventus 2b on a Xcountry having lunch in a thermal. I reached behind me to grab the water tube; the bottle was strapped on parcel shelf above and behind me and the tube had slipped down beside me out of reach and I was going to find it from the bottle. When I looked round, the paddocks were in my direct field of vision rotating. I absolutely had no idea I was in a spin. Full opposite rudder took a loooong time to stop the rotation and the height lost was significant but fortunately did not end in an outlanding.

I recite this to all my students when instructing on spins.

PeterS


So we need to teach them in aircraft that can be spun safely, but we also need to keep them keen and I must say that when I was learning 10 years ago, even then the IS28s gave the impression of being way too out-of-date in their performance and appearance. After going solo I graduated to the giddy heights of a Junior---the novelty wore off that pretty quickly when from 8,500' AGL I couldn't make it 40km home at best LD into a light breeze without another thermal!

It's no use saying I learned in one of those, and if it was good enough for me then it is good enough for the current generation of learners. We need to keep them interested, a little excited, able to progress quickly enough for it to be satisfying and also very safe.

I don't claim to know the answers, but I doubt if it is IS28s, K13s, K6s and Juniors. K21s? Probably, but I don't know what to recommend for a first single-seater.

Merry Xmas,

Colin



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