"When you say that it makes me think that on some level you don't really believe that the Quran is from God"
It doesn't make you think anything, Gilberto. It is what you choose to think. "If you are actually calling the scripture limited how could that not be a criticism of the scripture itself?" I believe that our scriptures have their limitations as well and I'm not criticizing them by saying that. I don't believe, for instance, that women will be excluded from the Universal House of Justice eternally. When the next Manifestation comes along, "She doeth whatsoever She willeth." ;-} "I mean, if you are really not criticizing the scripture itself and the problem lies in the application" Or maybe the problems lies in that we are not working off the same presuppositions. "In the Bahai faith women can't participate in combat and can't be on the UHJ to make legal rulings," That's true. As I said, even our scriptures have their limitations. ""Even" in Islam women like Khadijah owned their own businesses, women led troops in battle, and women can study to become scholars and muftis and make legal rulings." The majority of Muslim scholars would insist that women leading troops into battle and making legal decisions binding on men is contrary to the Shar'iah. "If you think God is compassionate and just, and you believe that the Quran is the word of God, then you should be able to follow the Quran and treat women with compassion and justice. If you don't believe the conclusion I would have serious doubts about whether you believed the premises." I believe my premises not yours, namely that the Qur'an is the Word of God but not everything in it is applicable in this Day. warmest, Susan __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu