On 1 Nov 2003 at 0:58, The Fool wrote:

> > From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > At 01:50 AM 10/31/03 -0600, The Fool wrote:
> > > > From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >
> > > > At 10:21 PM 10/30/03 -0600, The Fool wrote:
> > > > > > From: Reggie Bautista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I wrote:
> > > > > > >>The only group you are likely to get consistent answers
> > > > > > >>from
> > >would be
> > > > > > >>the anti-religious groups, as you can probably see from
> > > > > > >>some
> of
> > >the
> > > > > > >>others who have already answered your email.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > William T. Goodall replied:
> > > > > > >Doesn't this indicate where the compelling evidence leads?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That the only group that follows in lockstep and allows no
> dissent
> > >from
> > > > > > their orthodoxy is the anti-religious group?
> > > > >
> > > > >Interesting.  You are attempting to frame freethinkers and
> > >rationalists
> > > > >as authoritarian thought police.  But the fact remains that
> > >freethinkers
> > > > >and rationalists have thrown off shackles of religious thought
> > >control,
> > > > >not the other way around.
> > > >
> > > > Though it is interesting how many of the people who describe
> themselves
> > >as
> > > > "free thinkers" seem to think alike on so many issues, and to
> reject
> > >the
> > > > positions of anyone who disagrees with them on those issues
> (abortion,
> > > > frex) . . .
> > >
> > >Because their minds are clear of ignorant religious dogma?  Why
> > >should anyone consider a parasitic lump of undifferentiated cells
> > >any differently from a cancer?  Stems cells are not humans, and I
> > >am unwilling to give stem cells human rights.
> 
> > 
> > I was going to ask what you thought a self-described free thinker
> > would
> say 
> > to someone who opposes abortion, but you seem to have answered that
> > question already, and to have made my point that the free thinkers
> > are
> just 
> > as unaccepting and unforgiving of those in their ranks who do not
> > agree
> 
> > with them as the members of any religious organization.
> 
> Bullshit.  I ask again: Why should anyone consider a parasitic lump of
> undifferentiated cells any differently from a cancer?

Ask them. My position is quite clear - a mature Human being is more 
valuable than an unborn child. That's not to say that an unborn child 
doesn't have value, but the mother - and her wishes - must come 
first.

Andy
Dawn Falcon

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