Fascinating thread, and my hat is off to all who have chimed in. I've been developing PHP/MySQL apps from scratch for four years, and have just recently begun embracing CMSs, frameworks and anything else that can speed up development. I'm very interested in CakePHP, and am about 20 hours up the learning curve. Considering how little I've accomplished in that time, I'm about ready to jump ship.
I don't doubt for a minute that CakePHP is an excellent framework. And after an hour or two of tutorials, I was pretty stoked. Now it's time for me to put CakePHP to work, and the going ain't so easy... So take this for what it's worth: if you want to "change the world" with CakePHP, don't bother creating a killer app. Instead, find a way to flatten the learning curve by about 45 degrees. The API docs are great, but the overviews and tutorials just don't give the CakePHP newcomer what he/she needs. I have read time and time again of developers heading in different directions (Code Igniter, for example), because they just CAN NOT make sense of this framework. Or they know they can eventually figure it out, but don't have the time to spare. I know the people who developed this framework make me look like a bonafide stooge. But all that coding savvy is going to waste if this spiffy framework remains an inscrutable tangle of half-baked documentation and shallow tutorials. Documentation is no fun (I hate writing it, we all hate writing it), but I believe it is KEY to the widespread adoption of CakePHP. Flame if you must, but I'm just trying to offer my perspective. As near as I can tell, I'm the very type of developer you're hoping to attract. I'll likely stick with CakePHP, but would switch in heartbeat if another framework offered similar power and better docs. Time is just too valuable. Thanks for reading, Loren --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
