I'd still want to see an amendment. No laws, none. Thats what the document says, and it's what I personally believe in.
Adam Churvis wrote: > I have always thought that the intention of the Second Amendment was > three-fold: to establish that the states needed their own militia, that the > citizens were that militia, and that *both* the states' militia and the > individuals making up those militia had the right to keep and bear arms, > both jointly and severally. > > By "keep," history shows that individually-served weapons such as rifles, > pistols, muskets, spikes, bayonets, and the like were kept by either their > individual owners or, in the case of issuance, those to whom those weapons > were issued by the state -- or in some cases local -- government. They were > kept in their own homes or on their persons. > > In the case of crew-served weapons, which back in the day would mean cannon > and the like, and today could mean anything from artillery to some of the > larger anti-tank missiles, it was impractical for most citizens to store > them at their residences. > > But if a citizen had the room to do so, it was actually desired for them to > keep such crew-served weapons in, say, a barn or a blacksmith's shed. This > was so that citizens would have instant access to them *and* so that the > government would not know where a single large cache of citizens' weapons > could be confiscated. > > If a citizen either made his own crew-served weapon or purchased one of his > own accord, there was nothing preventing him from doing so. Citizens were > trusted with even the largest and most powerful weapons of their times, and > there were as many criminals per capita in that day as there are today. But > criminals were categorized as such (like today) and people protected > themselves against them by arming themselves. > > Should citizens be allowed to own artillery? Well, logic tells me that > "never say never" is a good policy, because who knows all conditions that > might apply? That's where the beauty of the waiver system works so well. > Currently, you apply on a weapon-by-weapon basis to the federal government > for a waiver on the prohibition of the weapon. You go through a vetting > process so stringent it would make a nun cry, and if the fed can't find > cause to deny you, it's yours (after paying a stiff transfer tax, that is). > > I would eliminate the federal waiver system in favor of one at each state's > level, but essentially make it the same sort of animal. That way each state > can look at the weapon-owner-cause relationship carefully and approve or > disapprove on a case-by-case basis, thereby reasonably protecting the > general public while reasonably ensuring against undue restriction on > individuals' rights to own even the most powerful of weapons. > > What do you all think of this? > > Respectfully, > > Adam Phillip Churvis > President > Productivity Enhancement > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 8:04 AM >> To: CF-Community >> Subject: Re: Right To Bear Arms >> >> You're wrong man. I think you even know thats not what the framers >> intended. It's too damned easy to read what those guys had to say on >> the issue and see they meant it to be an individual right, that they >> really did mean there should be no laws on arms. >> >> Gruss Gott wrote: >>>> tBone wrote: >>>> The states pussed out on speed limits, no denying that one. >>> lol >>>> Have you listened to the supreme court opening debates yet? >>> Oh, yeah, they might do it, but here's my gun bitch: >>> >>> A few years back some dude shot his son in the chest because he >>> "thought he was a bear" despite the fact the kid was wearing blaze >>> orange. >>> >>> The bottom line is that there are too many morons with guns. >>> >>> So maybe that's the new regulation: if you're a moron we're taking >>> your guns since you'll probably just shoot your militia buddy rather >>> than government anyway. >>> >>> It's militia service. >>> >>> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:257108 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
