I'm thinking widespread change like you're after is more a societal deal than a legal deal.
Laws have their place, but with a flawed legal system, I'm hesitant to rely on them so heavily. My dad's got a great story about how a "voluntary" boat registration became a required boat tax... Why not just, (if throwing the book at X really works(I'm not so sure)) have really stiff stuff for the commission of gun crimes, and put the entire onus on the perp, vs. the person who sold/made/provided the weapon? I'm getting tired of this attitude that there's always someone else who's responsible (someone with deeper pockets, usually). The real problem is people killing each other. We can do that without guns. Not to poo-poo the ideas-- hell, go for it! I'm thinking it's just a never-ending deal tho- fire cooks and fire burns. Fire isn't self aware, that we know of. Regulating fire is hard. -Denny -- Why did the gun look like a tree-branch to River? :] On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I personally rankle at the idea of registration, but if we're ever going to > move ahead with something that will actually work, we'll need to satisfy > those interested mainly in significantly reducing gun deaths by making a > penalty for illegal guns so stiff that it actually becomes effective (worked > famously in Australia), and to do that we'll need to have a government > record of each and every gun legally owned. > > We're all going to have to compromise, but hopefully this way still gives > everyone the crux of what they're truly desire: a truly significant > reduction or near elimination of illegal guns, guns in the hands of the > lawful, the ability to own whatever kind of weapon a lawful person desires, > the ability to more instantly track down the guns that are used in gun > crimes (registration would also entail a sample bullet and casing fired from > that weapon to be digitally cataloged for forensic matching), and legal > protections for non-gun-owing citizens who might be damaged by irresponsible > acts of gun owners. > > The ATF could reduce its work to a very important yet much more targeted and > manageable task: coordinating record searches among the various states' > databases and managing incoming shipments of guns, their distribution to > licensed gun dealers (and no more home-based dealers!), and auditing gun > dealers. > > Guys, I really want to make something work in this country for both avid gun > owners like myself and people who despise the very thought of them. I > believe in getting the scumbags who commit gun crimes off the street for > good. I want there to be an inescapable "stick-a-fork-in-him-he's-done" law > that simply says, "You break this law designed to erode the ability of the > criminally-oriented to do crime, you're freedom is gone forever." I want to > make it to where when someone sees a person carrying a holstered gun into a > grocery store or a bank (like I used to do many years ago), there is no fear > whatsoever because everyone knows he has a bona fide history of respecting > the law. I want the law-abiding citizens who care to do so be able to > purchase, own, and carry whatever weapon they deem appropriate for which > their state government cannot show good cause to deny them. > > I want it so that, a few relatively short decades from now, gun crime in > this country of ours is reduced to such a small percentage of overall crime > that it becomes national news each time, and stops people in their tracks to > see who was goddamned stupid enough to commit it. > > > Respectfully, > > Adam Phillip Churvis > President > Productivity Enhancement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:257336 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
