I have spoken to several colleagues from Canada about this issue and they
all have nothign but good things to say about the healthcare.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Michael Grant <mgr...@modus.bz> wrote:

>
> > I think this is how Canada and the UK do it and that will create the
> > long lines, the crappy care, etc.
>
> I'm not sure if you mean that the UK and Canada have long lines and crappy
> care of if you mean the US would if they adopt this type of system.
>
> If it's the former you're just plain wrong. For certain procedures you may
> have to wait, but for most things it's immediate, whether to see your
> doctor
> or through the urgent care system. The quality of care is excellent.
>
> The fundamental idea in both countries is that no one should be refused
> healthcare for any reason.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Gruss Gott <grussg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > > Grant wrote:
> > > projected costs are going to be high. As with all challenges it will
> need
> > to
> > > be overcome.
> >
> > And there are 3 places I can think of to look:
> >
> > 1.) Admin costs (automation, standardization, et al)
> >
> > 2.) Patient-Provider. Do you really need to go to the doctor today?
> > If you go for a cough do you need an MRI and CAT scan?  Yes, no, who
> > decides?  This is where consumer directed health care can save
> > zillions: both in educating consumers to make smart choices and in
> > encouraging doctors to align their fees to market demand.
> >
> > 3.) Preventative care.  Stop smoking, stop eating crap, start
> > excercising, et al.  And if you choose not too, then you pay for the
> > privilege.  Should be just like gasoline: if you want 450hp V10 engine
> > then you pay more to travel.
> >
> > My fear would be that we go in the direction of standardizing on plans
> > rather than payer.
> >
> > I think this is how Canada and the UK do it and that will create the
> > long lines, the crappy care, etc.
> >
> >
>
> 

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