Oh bullshit. I did not excuse the security issue --- just made the remark as
a side comment. There are in fact issues that have not been fixed since
2001. The buck stops at Obama, as I said.

And hey, I am sure you have a list of reasons why this was not addressed in
2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, or 2008. And hey. I am sure *you* know
exactly how to detect powder in someone's underwear!

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Funny, not once does the word 'wrong' appear in my post.
>
> Also note that I never claimed Bush does not shoulder any blame for
> 9/11. I was merely using the metrics laid out in countless other
> threads and applying them to this incident.
>
> The same problem that existed in 2001 exists now. Different agencies
> had information about the attack/attempted attack and if that
> information had  been shared, odds are none of the scumbags would have
> been able to get on a plane. For not changing those policies, I blame
> Obama.
>
> Sorry, Dana, 'he's been busy' doesn't cut it. I can only imagine the
> vitriol that would have spewed from this list if that was ever offered
> up as an 'excuse' for Bush.
>
> You guys have proven once again that, in your eyes, what is good for
> the goose, is not good for the gander.
>
> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Jim Davis <hofli...@depressedpress.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:20 AM
> >> To: cf-community
> >> Subject: Who gets the blame for the attempted bombing on Christmas?
> >>
> >>
> >> Based on Gruss' position about 9/11, it has to be Obama. Why?
> >
> > I'll agree.
> >
> > I also feel the need to point out that "wrong" is relative.  Looking at
> just
> > these two incidents with the myopic focus you've demonstrated it's clear
> > that Bush was vastly more wrong than Obama - if, as you are, comparing
> them
> > as otherwise equivalent events lain directly at the feet of the CIC.
> >
> > Obama: Missed one amateur, disturbed individual who's essentially random
> > actions caused little actual damage.
> >
> > Bush: Missed a far-reaching, multi-target, heavily planned conspiracy
> > involving dozens of people which resulted in massive human and economic
> loss
> > individually and nationally.
> >
> > Now let's play "who's more wrong in their response!"
> >
> > Bush, let's remember, unashamedly used the event to push a previously
> > defined (but unrelated) agenda driving us into an abysmal well of debt.
> > Then he gave the head of the CIA a medal.
> >
> > Obama, your move, sir.
> >
> > Jim Davis
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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