nod, that was pretty good. There are of course issues with no-fly lists and I don't think a single phone call should get you there.... we all remember the stoies of elderly pacifist nuns making the list.
But yeah, there has to be a better way that realizuing ir retrospect that we were warned. On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > My issue is not so much with the fact that we could not detect the > powder, but that information was not shared that may have put him on a > 'no fly' list to begin with. > > That is the issue that needs to be fixed. Who knows, maybe everyone > thought it was fixed and this just shed light on it again. But, we now > know it is still a problem, lets get it fixed. Which is why I did like > the response that basically said, " I want to know why this happened, > and I want to know now" > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Oh bullshit. I did not excuse the security issue --- just made the remark > as > > a side comment. There are in fact issues that have not been fixed since > > 2001. The buck stops at Obama, as I said. > > > > And hey, I am sure you have a list of reasons why this was not addressed > in > > 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, or 2008. And hey. I am sure *you* > know > > exactly how to detect powder in someone's underwear! > > > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> Funny, not once does the word 'wrong' appear in my post. > >> > >> Also note that I never claimed Bush does not shoulder any blame for > >> 9/11. I was merely using the metrics laid out in countless other > >> threads and applying them to this incident. > >> > >> The same problem that existed in 2001 exists now. Different agencies > >> had information about the attack/attempted attack and if that > >> information had been shared, odds are none of the scumbags would have > >> been able to get on a plane. For not changing those policies, I blame > >> Obama. > >> > >> Sorry, Dana, 'he's been busy' doesn't cut it. I can only imagine the > >> vitriol that would have spewed from this list if that was ever offered > >> up as an 'excuse' for Bush. > >> > >> You guys have proven once again that, in your eyes, what is good for > >> the goose, is not good for the gander. > >> > >> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Jim Davis <hofli...@depressedpress.com > > > >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:20 AM > >> >> To: cf-community > >> >> Subject: Who gets the blame for the attempted bombing on Christmas? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Based on Gruss' position about 9/11, it has to be Obama. Why? > >> > > >> > I'll agree. > >> > > >> > I also feel the need to point out that "wrong" is relative. Looking > at > >> just > >> > these two incidents with the myopic focus you've demonstrated it's > clear > >> > that Bush was vastly more wrong than Obama - if, as you are, comparing > >> them > >> > as otherwise equivalent events lain directly at the feet of the CIC. > >> > > >> > Obama: Missed one amateur, disturbed individual who's essentially > random > >> > actions caused little actual damage. > >> > > >> > Bush: Missed a far-reaching, multi-target, heavily planned conspiracy > >> > involving dozens of people which resulted in massive human and > economic > >> loss > >> > individually and nationally. > >> > > >> > Now let's play "who's more wrong in their response!" > >> > > >> > Bush, let's remember, unashamedly used the event to push a previously > >> > defined (but unrelated) agenda driving us into an abysmal well of > debt. > >> > Then he gave the head of the CIA a medal. > >> > > >> > Obama, your move, sir. > >> > > >> > Jim Davis > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:309847 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
