You are changing your argument mid swing. You said it was apples to apples because NFL has Super Bowl and because FIFA has World Cup. Therefore the list I gave speaks to that point. Now you are saying your argument is based on if a ruling body is responsible for a sanctioned ball etc. I'm not going to debate when you insist on losing the plot.
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Funny, as it seems FIFA disagrees with you. Why else woud they be > investigating, or did you not read the link that was provided? > > To address your comment below: > > Darts - don't know much about it, but the few local tournaments (in > bars) I have seen, each participant brought their own darts. > Golf - Each golfer uses their own style ball, so they switch at their > own choosing, not because the PGA decides to sell the rights to the > new design. > Rock-paper-scissors - the only equipment is your hand, so unless > people start re-designing their hands, not sure this has any > relevance. > Tennis - I know less about tennis than I do darts. But I do not ever > recall hearing players express concerns about the balls at any of the > 4 majors. > Cricket - ok..I know nothing of Cricket. Absolutely nothing. So you > may have a point here..its doubtful, but I will concede this one. > Horse racing - seriously? > Indy - if its anything like NASCAR, they use different tires for each > race - something else I find stupid and dangerous. But aside from that > each team supplies it own car, so if they changes anything, its their > fault, not the sanctioning body. > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Medic <hofme...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > So then darts, golf, paper-rock-scissors, tennis, cricket, horse racing, > > indy and more are all apples to apples just because they have a > > large pinnacle event? > > > > It's not like they've changed the ball so much that it's not a football > > anymore. And it's not like the teams were just given the ball the day the > > world cup started. They've had lots of time to train with Jubulani. And > > these athletes can and have adjusted to the ball. This hasn't destroyed > the > > world cup nor taken any of the shine off of it. Look at Portugal scoring > > seven goals in a single outing. Proof positive that changing the ball > hasn't > > destroyed the game. > > > > So yes, apples to oranges. And again, why the hell does it matter what > NFL > > does in a discussion about the world cup? > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> Lets see. > >> > >> The Super Bowl is the biggest event put on by the NFL. The World Cup > >> is the biggest event (even bigger than the Super Bowl) put on by FIFA. > >> (Apples vs Apples there) > >> > >> The NFL does not change the design of the ball for its big event. FIFA > >> does. > >> > >> Please help me understand how this is an apples to oranges comparison? > >> > >> I cannot imagine training for 4 years(or more) to get to the World Cup > >> and have to play with a ball, arguable the single most important piece > >> of equipment in ANY soccer game, that acts differently to what I used > >> during my training. To me, that is just...ionno...odd. > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Medic <hofme...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > But how does the fact that the NFL doesn't change their ball relate to > >> > football in any way? It's part of world cup that they try to use new > tech > >> > with the balls. It just seems like you are comparing apples to oranges > by > >> > saying "say what you want about oranges, at least they aren't apples." > >> > > >> > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Sure. > >> >> > >> >> If I understand correctly, the ball being used this year was newly > >> >> engineered specifically for this World Cup (as was, I believe, the > >> >> ball from 4 years ago). > >> >> > >> >> This ball seems to be acting differently than other balls that are > >> >> used. You don't get that with American football (or any other major > >> >> sport in the US). > >> >> > >> >> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Medic <hofme...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > Would you be so kind as to help a poor fella like myself understand > >> your > >> >> > point? > >> >> > > >> >> > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Say what you want about American football, but we don't > re-engineer > >> >> >> the ball for every Super Bowl :D > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Vivec <gel21...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Fifa responds to another point of contention in the worldcup > today > >> : > >> >> The > >> >> >> new > >> >> >> > Ball. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > The ball has come under intense criticism for it's propensity to > >> arc > >> >> >> several > >> >> >> > meters into the air with the slightest touch. > >> >> >> > This has thrown off several strikers who in regular play are > >> normally > >> >> top > >> >> >> > scorers. It is also supposedly responsible for the low goal > scoring > >> in > >> >> >> > several of the matches thus far. > >> >> >> > The number of overbars and wide strikes in this Worldcup is > >> supposedly > >> >> >> > higher than on previous years. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> > http://www.wired.com/playbook/2010/06/fifa-promises-investigation-into-world-cup-ball/ > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:322258 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
