Now you are starting to get it... that your comparison between the two is as ridiculous as a comparison between rock-paper-scissors. </cfroadmap>
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have not changed ny argument, though you seem to be throwing up a > lot of smoke in front of yours. > > I made a rather innocuous comment (intended to be a joke AND rustle > some feathers) that the NFL does not make it a habit of redesigning > the ball they use for their biggest event like FIFA does. > > You were the one who threw in the other sports (most of which are not > relevant, rock-paper-scissors? seriously?) > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Medic <hofme...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > You are changing your argument mid swing. You said it was apples to > apples > > because NFL has Super Bowl and because FIFA has World Cup. Therefore the > > list I gave speaks to that point. Now you are saying your argument is > based > > on if a ruling body is responsible for a sanctioned ball etc. I'm not > going > > to debate when you insist on losing the plot. > > > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> Funny, as it seems FIFA disagrees with you. Why else woud they be > >> investigating, or did you not read the link that was provided? > >> > >> To address your comment below: > >> > >> Darts - don't know much about it, but the few local tournaments (in > >> bars) I have seen, each participant brought their own darts. > >> Golf - Each golfer uses their own style ball, so they switch at their > >> own choosing, not because the PGA decides to sell the rights to the > >> new design. > >> Rock-paper-scissors - the only equipment is your hand, so unless > >> people start re-designing their hands, not sure this has any > >> relevance. > >> Tennis - I know less about tennis than I do darts. But I do not ever > >> recall hearing players express concerns about the balls at any of the > >> 4 majors. > >> Cricket - ok..I know nothing of Cricket. Absolutely nothing. So you > >> may have a point here..its doubtful, but I will concede this one. > >> Horse racing - seriously? > >> Indy - if its anything like NASCAR, they use different tires for each > >> race - something else I find stupid and dangerous. But aside from that > >> each team supplies it own car, so if they changes anything, its their > >> fault, not the sanctioning body. > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Medic <hofme...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > So then darts, golf, paper-rock-scissors, tennis, cricket, horse > racing, > >> > indy and more are all apples to apples just because they have a > >> > large pinnacle event? > >> > > >> > It's not like they've changed the ball so much that it's not a > football > >> > anymore. And it's not like the teams were just given the ball the day > the > >> > world cup started. They've had lots of time to train with Jubulani. > And > >> > these athletes can and have adjusted to the ball. This hasn't > destroyed > >> the > >> > world cup nor taken any of the shine off of it. Look at Portugal > scoring > >> > seven goals in a single outing. Proof positive that changing the ball > >> hasn't > >> > destroyed the game. > >> > > >> > So yes, apples to oranges. And again, why the hell does it matter what > >> NFL > >> > does in a discussion about the world cup? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Lets see. > >> >> > >> >> The Super Bowl is the biggest event put on by the NFL. The World Cup > >> >> is the biggest event (even bigger than the Super Bowl) put on by > FIFA. > >> >> (Apples vs Apples there) > >> >> > >> >> The NFL does not change the design of the ball for its big event. > FIFA > >> >> does. > >> >> > >> >> Please help me understand how this is an apples to oranges > comparison? > >> >> > >> >> I cannot imagine training for 4 years(or more) to get to the World > Cup > >> >> and have to play with a ball, arguable the single most important > piece > >> >> of equipment in ANY soccer game, that acts differently to what I used > >> >> during my training. To me, that is just...ionno...odd. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Medic <hofme...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > But how does the fact that the NFL doesn't change their ball relate > to > >> >> > football in any way? It's part of world cup that they try to use > new > >> tech > >> >> > with the balls. It just seems like you are comparing apples to > oranges > >> by > >> >> > saying "say what you want about oranges, at least they aren't > apples." > >> >> > > >> >> > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Sure. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> If I understand correctly, the ball being used this year was newly > >> >> >> engineered specifically for this World Cup (as was, I believe, the > >> >> >> ball from 4 years ago). > >> >> >> > >> >> >> This ball seems to be acting differently than other balls that are > >> >> >> used. You don't get that with American football (or any other > major > >> >> >> sport in the US). > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Medic <hofme...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Would you be so kind as to help a poor fella like myself > understand > >> >> your > >> >> >> > point? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com > > > >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Say what you want about American football, but we don't > >> re-engineer > >> >> >> >> the ball for every Super Bowl :D > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Vivec <gel21...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Fifa responds to another point of contention in the worldcup > >> today > >> >> : > >> >> >> The > >> >> >> >> new > >> >> >> >> > Ball. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > The ball has come under intense criticism for it's propensity > to > >> >> arc > >> >> >> >> several > >> >> >> >> > meters into the air with the slightest touch. > >> >> >> >> > This has thrown off several strikers who in regular play are > >> >> normally > >> >> >> top > >> >> >> >> > scorers. It is also supposedly responsible for the low goal > >> scoring > >> >> in > >> >> >> >> > several of the matches thus far. > >> >> >> >> > The number of overbars and wide strikes in this Worldcup is > >> >> supposedly > >> >> >> >> > higher than on previous years. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> > http://www.wired.com/playbook/2010/06/fifa-promises-investigation-into-world-cup-ball/ > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:322260 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
