We still have a while to go before we get that far. More like Imperial
Germany around 1900 rather than Italy under Mussolini.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Eric Roberts
<ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> Welcome to the fascist police state...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Milo Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:41 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Supreme Court: Strip searches just fine for any offense, no
> matter how small
>
>
> Can you look at the specifics of this case, and please explain to me how
> this fits in with the idea of the United States of America that we were
> taught we lived in?
>
> And that you agree that this was reasonable, and should be allowed?
>
> I don't see it.
>
> The arrest should not have happened.
> The strip search should not have happened.
> Being jailed should not have happened.
> The transfer to PRISON should not have happened.
> The second strip search should not have happened.
>
> I am flabbergasted that this is acceptable in America.
>
> Truly.
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Justin Scott <leviat...@darktech.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> > On a 5-4 vote, court says that it is just peachy to strip search
>> > anyone before putting them in a jail cell even if there is no cause
>> > to think that they have any contraband and no matter how trivial the
>> > offense was.
>>
>> Being that my primary work deals with the corrections industry and I
>> have a lot of close contact with staff at several county jails, I do
>> understand why the jails have these blanket policies.  From what I've
>> been told, inmates, their families, or their gangs will sometimes hire
>> people to hide drugs on their person and then get arrested on purpose
>> on some minor charge for the sole purpose of smuggling drugs and other
>> items into the jail.
>>
>> Unfortunately our litigation-happy culture has made it nearly
>> impossible for the jails to be subjective about nearly anything.
>> Where common sense and on-the-fly judgement would make sense in the
>> real world, they have to use blanket policies and procedures and "no
>> exceptions" style rules to ward off lawsuits from the inmates.  Where
>> they were once able to pick and choose who to strip-search, they've
>> been litigated into just making it standard practice for everyone
>> being booked in.
>>
>> There is a safety aspect to it for the jail staff and contractors who
>> have to work in their facilities, as well as a protection to prevent
>> discrimination/harassment lawsuits from inmates who feel that they've
>> been singled out for those kinds of searches (which, in theory, saves
>> the taxpayers money on several fronts).
>>
>>
>> -Justin
>>
>>
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