Obviously...the point being is that you can end up in a general population without being convicted of something...
-----Original Message----- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 7:49 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Supreme Court: Strip searches just fine for any offense, no matter how small In NJ..you will NEVER go directly to 'county'...ever. Each city/municipality has 'holding cells' in their police stations/precincts where people are brought when they are arrested. Yes, it possible that after 'processing' you would be transferred to county - but, in NJ, you would never go directly from arrested on the street to county lockup. On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: > Not in NJ...which is where this occurred. > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Eric Roberts > <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >> >> Not totally correct...if you are pulled over by the sheriff's >> department or state police, there is a possibility you can go to >> county because that is also where the courts are at. When my wife >> went to jail for child support non-payment (when she was unemployed), >> she went to county. It depends on the offense and who arrested you. >> Even if a city cop arrests you, after they process you, you may be sent to county to await a bond hearing. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 2:00 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: Supreme Court: Strip searches just fine for any offense, >> no matter how small >> >> >> It seems you may have an idea of the location the searches took place >> that might not be accurate (and this explanation may not even matter >> - but I am going to try anyway). >> >> These strip searches were not done in a local police department after >> the man was brought to the police station. They were done in county >> jails. The difference between them is like the difference between a >> jail cell in a NY police precinct and Riker's Island. In NJ, the >> county jails are not where you go when you are arrested, its where >> you go when you are convicted of a crime that is not 'severe' enough >> to be put in state prison (or are awaiting trial and were denied or cannot afford bail). >> >> Should everyone who gets arrested get strip searched? I don't believe so. >> Should everyone who is being brought into a corrections facility as a >> prisoner get strip searched? I think that is the prudent think to do. >> >> Once again, I think the travesty here is that an innocent man (who >> had a letter proving his innocence) was put into the system as a >> prisoner >> - not how he was treated as a prisoner when he got there. >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Judah McAuley <ju...@wiredotter.com> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Cameron Childress >>> <camer...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> IMHO - being admitted to a jail is more than enough reasonable >>>> suspicion and probable cause for a search. Period. >>>> >>>> This guy should never have been admitted to jail, but that's not an >>>> issue for the jail personel to decide. It should never have gotten >>>> to >> that point. >>> >>> And that's the sort of attitude that has caused the erosion of the >>> 4th Amendment. If the cops feel like they ought to arrest someone, >>> well, that ought to be good enough? It's bad enough that people can >>> get put in jail at the whim of an officer. At least there is some >>> minimal recourse for false arrest. But now we are also saying that >>> an invasive, full body strip search is just going to be the standard >>> part of depriving you of your liberty. I think that's absurd and dangerous. >>> >>> Think about recent protests, for example. 100 people get arrested >>> and detained. Everyone knows that those people are going to be held >>> for probably a couple hours, then released. The DA will probably >>> waive charges for most of them. If you get a hard ass DA, they might >>> get brought to a mass court hearing and everyone gets hit with >>> community service and probation. Not a big deal. >>> >>> Now, you really think it is reasonable and worthwhile to strip >>> search every single one of those 100 protestors? What is gained? Why >>> is it reasonable? Do we really need to sacrifice the dignity and >>> humanness of all these people for the sake of...what? I don't even know. >>> >>> Judah >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:349435 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
