Also, in NJ, Sheriff's Officers are not patrol officers. They are mostly used to serve warrants, operate 911 services, guard the county courthouse and/or man the county prison.
I know this is different than elsewhere (including where I live now) but this incident occurred in NJ, so I think its important to get the details correct. On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Eric Roberts <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Not totally correct...if you are pulled over by the sheriff's department or > state police, there is a possibility you can go to county because that is > also where the courts are at. When my wife went to jail for child support > non-payment (when she was unemployed), she went to county. It depends on > the offense and who arrested you. Even if a city cop arrests you, after > they process you, you may be sent to county to await a bond hearing. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 2:00 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Supreme Court: Strip searches just fine for any offense, no > matter how small > > > It seems you may have an idea of the location the searches took place that > might not be accurate (and this explanation may not even matter - but I am > going to try anyway). > > These strip searches were not done in a local police department after the > man was brought to the police station. They were done in county jails. The > difference between them is like the difference between a jail cell in a NY > police precinct and Riker's Island. In NJ, the county jails are not where > you go when you are arrested, its where you go when you are convicted of a > crime that is not 'severe' enough to be put in state prison (or are awaiting > trial and were denied or cannot afford bail). > > Should everyone who gets arrested get strip searched? I don't believe so. > Should everyone who is being brought into a corrections facility as a > prisoner get strip searched? I think that is the prudent think to do. > > Once again, I think the travesty here is that an innocent man (who had a > letter proving his innocence) was put into the system as a prisoner > - not how he was treated as a prisoner when he got there. > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Judah McAuley <ju...@wiredotter.com> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Cameron Childress <camer...@gmail.com> > wrote: >>> >>> IMHO - being admitted to a jail is more than enough reasonable >>> suspicion and probable cause for a search. Period. >>> >>> This guy should never have been admitted to jail, but that's not an >>> issue for the jail personel to decide. It should never have gotten to > that point. >> >> And that's the sort of attitude that has caused the erosion of the 4th >> Amendment. If the cops feel like they ought to arrest someone, well, >> that ought to be good enough? It's bad enough that people can get put >> in jail at the whim of an officer. At least there is some minimal >> recourse for false arrest. But now we are also saying that an >> invasive, full body strip search is just going to be the standard part >> of depriving you of your liberty. I think that's absurd and dangerous. >> >> Think about recent protests, for example. 100 people get arrested and >> detained. Everyone knows that those people are going to be held for >> probably a couple hours, then released. The DA will probably waive >> charges for most of them. If you get a hard ass DA, they might get >> brought to a mass court hearing and everyone gets hit with community >> service and probation. Not a big deal. >> >> Now, you really think it is reasonable and worthwhile to strip search >> every single one of those 100 protestors? What is gained? Why is it >> reasonable? Do we really need to sacrifice the dignity and humanness >> of all these people for the sake of...what? I don't even know. >> >> Judah >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:349423 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
