they do. But the law does away with a bad court decision that meant you
could not go to court over it, essentially. You had to file within 180 days
of your pay becoming unequal, or too bad. Nobody can meet that, not that
anybody wants to go to court anyway or that there aren't plenty of other
hurdles if you do. But the Lily Ledbetter Act made women a little less
powerless.

Open.gov used to exist but the republicans killed the funding. Data
transparency in government. Can't have *that*.

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:14 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> What did he do for equal pay?  It's my understanding that women still make
> only a percentage of what men do?
>
> Also what's open.gov?  There is no domain by that name.
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:06 AM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > we don't have to argue. I realize our opinions differ, and probably
> differ
> > a lot on health care. That's ok. I just think small government is good,
> > except where it's ineffective. You probably disagree on the meaning of
> > "ineffective" for one thing.
> >
> > Romney was mentioned as the option to be avoided is all. We've talked
> about
> > Gary Johnson -- I personally think he's not a bad option but don't want
> to
> > see him do a Ralph Nader. Myself.
> >
> > On the rest, well. Hopefully equal pay is not something we disagree on,
> or
> > we might have to argue about that one at some point ;)
> >
> > I was against Detroit, but some good did come of it. I'm a pragmatist,
> > fundamentally, shrug, but we may well interpret our facts differently
> too.
> > But you asked for something Obama did that was good -- let's go with
> equal
> > pay for women. That works for me ;)
> >
> > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:50 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I'm not sure what Romney had to do with the question, as I've never
> come
> > > out in support of the guy.
> > >
> > > As to the rest, well, let's just saw we don't agree, cause I'm not in
> the
> > > mood to argue tonight.
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > He signed the Lily Ledbetter Act on his first day in office as I
> > recall.
> > > >
> > > > open.gov was a start. Like a number of his other issues, not
> enough. I
> > > > count health care reform as positive, personally. Though not enough
> and
> > > not
> > > > done properly. Sotomayor (sp?) was a good appointment. The stimulus
> > was a
> > > > good idea until it was compromised out of existence. He did save
> > Detroit,
> > > > though I have to say I was against that at the time. I dislike
> military
> > > > intervention but Libya was probably a good idea. State Department
> > > > internet-in-a-suitcase thing was good. Student loan interest was
> good.
> > > >
> > > > The theme here though is that he has tried to compromise with people
> > who
> > > > were determined to undermine him.
> > > >
> > > > Negatives:
> > > >
> > > > Guantanamo
> > > > Use of drones
> > > > Wasted lots of money on Wall Street bailouts.
> > > > SOPA/PIPA
> > > >
> > > > Shrug. I put this next to Romney, who is a total tool as far as I can
> > > > tell.....
> > > >
> > > > Republicans have wagged the dog on one bogus issue after another. Why
> > do
> > > we
> > > > have to argue that voting rights are a good idea all over again? Why
> is
> > > it
> > > > a good idea to mandate vaginal probes? Why do people think it's bad
> > that
> > > > Planned Parenthood saved my freaking life and maybe it cost the feds
> > > forty
> > > > cents or so? (I'd have to go look up how much of their primary care
> > costs
> > > > get a federal subsidy? It wasn't much because I did pay about fifty
> > bucks
> > > > for the visit but nobody else wanted to deal with it and you know
> what,
> > > if
> > > >  I don't get the prescription I do get blood clots and those will
> > > > absolutely kill you about mmm twenty to thirty percent of the
> > time...the
> > > > exact number is discussable. Point is, Romney is not only a tool,
> he's
> > a
> > > > tool who parrots a platform that endangers my dignity, my health and
> my
> > > > life.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:36 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a hard time identifying anything he's done good, fill me in.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:33 AM, Eric Roberts <
> > > > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is still a large contingent on the left that is none too
> > happy
> > > > with
> > > > > > Obama and his continuance of the Bush policies....but yes, there
> is
> > > > also
> > > > > a
> > > > > > good number who think that Obama's shit doesn't stink.  He is
> > > donesome
> > > > > > really good stuff...but he has also really screwed the pooch
> hard.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:43 PM
> > > > > > To: cf-community
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Good news from NY today - NDAA
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The funniest thing about the loudest of the party loyalists is
> that
> > > > they
> > > > > > often don't understand their own parties beliefs, and just parrot
> > > > > whatever
> > > > > > they are told.  From what I can see these are the ones that
> either
> > > > > blindly
> > > > > > follow the party of their parents, or blindly rebelled by
> choosing
> > > the
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > party.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The differences I see between parties at this point are pretty
> > small
> > > in
> > > > > my
> > > > > > mind.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Judah McAuley <
> > > ju...@wiredotter.com
> > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yeah, I've seen "anti-war left now pro-warrior president left"
> > bit
> > > > > > > quite a lot. It really bugs me. The same folks who would be
> > > > demonizing
> > > > > > > Bush or McCain for taking out Bin Laden and then pushing the
> fact
> > > > > > > during an election are trumpeting the same thing being done by
> > > Obama.
> > > > > > > On the other hand, you've got all the guys on the right who are
> > > > trying
> > > > > > > to shame Obama for pointing out that he made the call to take
> out
> > > Bin
> > > > > > > Laden when Bush was all 9/11 all the time in 2004 and showing
> up
> > > in a
> > > > > > > flight suit on an aircraft carrier under a Mission Accomplished
> > > > > > > banner.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So many people are seemingly into it to support "their guy"
> > instead
> > > > of
> > > > > > > trying to support right and wrong and making things better.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Judah
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 7:04 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Not a big fan of salon generally, but recently I have noticed
> > > that
> > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > very upfront when dealing with the difference between
> reporting
> > > > > > > > facts,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > offering opinion.  They have even talked about how the
> formerly
> > > > > > > > anti-war left has turned into the pro-warrior president left.
> > >  That
> > > > > > > > was an interesting stor
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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