hey, data.gov still exists. Lemme see if they have something about my fiber
question. But yeah, pretty sure that open.gov did too and it was a lot more
extensive, and that the funding went away.

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.whitehouse.gov/open
>
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> they do. But the law does away with a bad court decision that meant you
>> could not go to court over it, essentially. You had to file within 180 days
>> of your pay becoming unequal, or too bad. Nobody can meet that, not that
>> anybody wants to go to court anyway or that there aren't plenty of other
>> hurdles if you do. But the Lily Ledbetter Act made women a little less
>> powerless.
>>
>> Open.gov used to exist but the republicans killed the funding. Data
>> transparency in government. Can't have *that*.
>>
>> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:14 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What did he do for equal pay?  It's my understanding that women still
>>> make
>>> only a percentage of what men do?
>>>
>>> Also what's open.gov?  There is no domain by that name.
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:06 AM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > we don't have to argue. I realize our opinions differ, and probably
>>> differ
>>> > a lot on health care. That's ok. I just think small government is good,
>>> > except where it's ineffective. You probably disagree on the meaning of
>>> > "ineffective" for one thing.
>>> >
>>> > Romney was mentioned as the option to be avoided is all. We've talked
>>> about
>>> > Gary Johnson -- I personally think he's not a bad option but don't
>>> want to
>>> > see him do a Ralph Nader. Myself.
>>> >
>>> > On the rest, well. Hopefully equal pay is not something we disagree
>>> on, or
>>> > we might have to argue about that one at some point ;)
>>> >
>>> > I was against Detroit, but some good did come of it. I'm a pragmatist,
>>> > fundamentally, shrug, but we may well interpret our facts differently
>>> too.
>>> > But you asked for something Obama did that was good -- let's go with
>>> equal
>>> > pay for women. That works for me ;)
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:50 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > > I'm not sure what Romney had to do with the question, as I've never
>>> come
>>> > > out in support of the guy.
>>> > >
>>> > > As to the rest, well, let's just saw we don't agree, cause I'm not
>>> in the
>>> > > mood to argue tonight.
>>> > >
>>> > > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > He signed the Lily Ledbetter Act on his first day in office as I
>>> > recall.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > open.gov was a start. Like a number of his other issues, not
>>> enough. I
>>> > > > count health care reform as positive, personally. Though not
>>> enough and
>>> > > not
>>> > > > done properly. Sotomayor (sp?) was a good appointment. The stimulus
>>> > was a
>>> > > > good idea until it was compromised out of existence. He did save
>>> > Detroit,
>>> > > > though I have to say I was against that at the time. I dislike
>>> military
>>> > > > intervention but Libya was probably a good idea. State Department
>>> > > > internet-in-a-suitcase thing was good. Student loan interest was
>>> good.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > The theme here though is that he has tried to compromise with
>>> people
>>> > who
>>> > > > were determined to undermine him.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Negatives:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Guantanamo
>>> > > > Use of drones
>>> > > > Wasted lots of money on Wall Street bailouts.
>>> > > > SOPA/PIPA
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Shrug. I put this next to Romney, who is a total tool as far as I
>>> can
>>> > > > tell.....
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Republicans have wagged the dog on one bogus issue after another.
>>> Why
>>> > do
>>> > > we
>>> > > > have to argue that voting rights are a good idea all over again?
>>> Why is
>>> > > it
>>> > > > a good idea to mandate vaginal probes? Why do people think it's bad
>>> > that
>>> > > > Planned Parenthood saved my freaking life and maybe it cost the
>>> feds
>>> > > forty
>>> > > > cents or so? (I'd have to go look up how much of their primary care
>>> > costs
>>> > > > get a federal subsidy? It wasn't much because I did pay about fifty
>>> > bucks
>>> > > > for the visit but nobody else wanted to deal with it and you know
>>> what,
>>> > > if
>>> > > >  I don't get the prescription I do get blood clots and those will
>>> > > > absolutely kill you about mmm twenty to thirty percent of the
>>> > time...the
>>> > > > exact number is discussable. Point is, Romney is not only a tool,
>>> he's
>>> > a
>>> > > > tool who parrots a platform that endangers my dignity, my health
>>> and my
>>> > > > life.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:36 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I have a hard time identifying anything he's done good, fill me
>>> in.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:33 AM, Eric Roberts <
>>> > > > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > There is still a large contingent on the left that is none too
>>> > happy
>>> > > > with
>>> > > > > > Obama and his continuance of the Bush policies....but yes,
>>> there is
>>> > > > also
>>> > > > > a
>>> > > > > > good number who think that Obama's shit doesn't stink.  He is
>>> > > donesome
>>> > > > > > really good stuff...but he has also really screwed the pooch
>>> hard.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > > > > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
>>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:43 PM
>>> > > > > > To: cf-community
>>> > > > > > Subject: Re: Good news from NY today - NDAA
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > The funniest thing about the loudest of the party loyalists is
>>> that
>>> > > > they
>>> > > > > > often don't understand their own parties beliefs, and just
>>> parrot
>>> > > > > whatever
>>> > > > > > they are told.  From what I can see these are the ones that
>>> either
>>> > > > > blindly
>>> > > > > > follow the party of their parents, or blindly rebelled by
>>> choosing
>>> > > the
>>> > > > > > other
>>> > > > > > party.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > The differences I see between parties at this point are pretty
>>> > small
>>> > > in
>>> > > > > my
>>> > > > > > mind.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Judah McAuley <
>>> > > ju...@wiredotter.com
>>> > > > > > >wrote:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > Yeah, I've seen "anti-war left now pro-warrior president
>>> left"
>>> > bit
>>> > > > > > > quite a lot. It really bugs me. The same folks who would be
>>> > > > demonizing
>>> > > > > > > Bush or McCain for taking out Bin Laden and then pushing the
>>> fact
>>> > > > > > > during an election are trumpeting the same thing being done
>>> by
>>> > > Obama.
>>> > > > > > > On the other hand, you've got all the guys on the right who
>>> are
>>> > > > trying
>>> > > > > > > to shame Obama for pointing out that he made the call to
>>> take out
>>> > > Bin
>>> > > > > > > Laden when Bush was all 9/11 all the time in 2004 and
>>> showing up
>>> > > in a
>>> > > > > > > flight suit on an aircraft carrier under a Mission
>>> Accomplished
>>> > > > > > > banner.
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > So many people are seemingly into it to support "their guy"
>>> > instead
>>> > > > of
>>> > > > > > > trying to support right and wrong and making things better.
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > Judah
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 7:04 PM, LRS Scout <
>>> lrssc...@gmail.com>
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > Not a big fan of salon generally, but recently I have
>>> noticed
>>> > > that
>>> > > > > > > > they
>>> > > > > > > are
>>> > > > > > > > very upfront when dealing with the difference between
>>> reporting
>>> > > > > > > > facts,
>>> > > > > > > and
>>> > > > > > > > offering opinion.  They have even talked about how the
>>> formerly
>>> > > > > > > > anti-war left has turned into the pro-warrior president
>>> left.
>>> > >  That
>>> > > > > > > > was an interesting stor
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> 

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