Interesting that he would do something like that, while also using various
government laws to go after both journalists and whistle blowers on a
regular basis.

Sounds like a PYSOP/IO type thing.  Say we're open, conceal the truth.

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:36 AM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> they do. But the law does away with a bad court decision that meant you
> could not go to court over it, essentially. You had to file within 180 days
> of your pay becoming unequal, or too bad. Nobody can meet that, not that
> anybody wants to go to court anyway or that there aren't plenty of other
> hurdles if you do. But the Lily Ledbetter Act made women a little less
> powerless.
>
> Open.gov used to exist but the republicans killed the funding. Data
> transparency in government. Can't have *that*.
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:14 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > What did he do for equal pay?  It's my understanding that women still
> make
> > only a percentage of what men do?
> >
> > Also what's open.gov?  There is no domain by that name.
> >
> > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:06 AM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > we don't have to argue. I realize our opinions differ, and probably
> > differ
> > > a lot on health care. That's ok. I just think small government is good,
> > > except where it's ineffective. You probably disagree on the meaning of
> > > "ineffective" for one thing.
> > >
> > > Romney was mentioned as the option to be avoided is all. We've talked
> > about
> > > Gary Johnson -- I personally think he's not a bad option but don't want
> > to
> > > see him do a Ralph Nader. Myself.
> > >
> > > On the rest, well. Hopefully equal pay is not something we disagree on,
> > or
> > > we might have to argue about that one at some point ;)
> > >
> > > I was against Detroit, but some good did come of it. I'm a pragmatist,
> > > fundamentally, shrug, but we may well interpret our facts differently
> > too.
> > > But you asked for something Obama did that was good -- let's go with
> > equal
> > > pay for women. That works for me ;)
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:50 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure what Romney had to do with the question, as I've never
> > come
> > > > out in support of the guy.
> > > >
> > > > As to the rest, well, let's just saw we don't agree, cause I'm not in
> > the
> > > > mood to argue tonight.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > He signed the Lily Ledbetter Act on his first day in office as I
> > > recall.
> > > > >
> > > > > open.gov was a start. Like a number of his other issues, not
> > enough. I
> > > > > count health care reform as positive, personally. Though not enough
> > and
> > > > not
> > > > > done properly. Sotomayor (sp?) was a good appointment. The stimulus
> > > was a
> > > > > good idea until it was compromised out of existence. He did save
> > > Detroit,
> > > > > though I have to say I was against that at the time. I dislike
> > military
> > > > > intervention but Libya was probably a good idea. State Department
> > > > > internet-in-a-suitcase thing was good. Student loan interest was
> > good.
> > > > >
> > > > > The theme here though is that he has tried to compromise with
> people
> > > who
> > > > > were determined to undermine him.
> > > > >
> > > > > Negatives:
> > > > >
> > > > > Guantanamo
> > > > > Use of drones
> > > > > Wasted lots of money on Wall Street bailouts.
> > > > > SOPA/PIPA
> > > > >
> > > > > Shrug. I put this next to Romney, who is a total tool as far as I
> can
> > > > > tell.....
> > > > >
> > > > > Republicans have wagged the dog on one bogus issue after another.
> Why
> > > do
> > > > we
> > > > > have to argue that voting rights are a good idea all over again?
> Why
> > is
> > > > it
> > > > > a good idea to mandate vaginal probes? Why do people think it's bad
> > > that
> > > > > Planned Parenthood saved my freaking life and maybe it cost the
> feds
> > > > forty
> > > > > cents or so? (I'd have to go look up how much of their primary care
> > > costs
> > > > > get a federal subsidy? It wasn't much because I did pay about fifty
> > > bucks
> > > > > for the visit but nobody else wanted to deal with it and you know
> > what,
> > > > if
> > > > >  I don't get the prescription I do get blood clots and those will
> > > > > absolutely kill you about mmm twenty to thirty percent of the
> > > time...the
> > > > > exact number is discussable. Point is, Romney is not only a tool,
> > he's
> > > a
> > > > > tool who parrots a platform that endangers my dignity, my health
> and
> > my
> > > > > life.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:36 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a hard time identifying anything he's done good, fill me
> in.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:33 AM, Eric Roberts <
> > > > > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is still a large contingent on the left that is none too
> > > happy
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > Obama and his continuance of the Bush policies....but yes,
> there
> > is
> > > > > also
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > good number who think that Obama's shit doesn't stink.  He is
> > > > donesome
> > > > > > > really good stuff...but he has also really screwed the pooch
> > hard.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:43 PM
> > > > > > > To: cf-community
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Good news from NY today - NDAA
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The funniest thing about the loudest of the party loyalists is
> > that
> > > > > they
> > > > > > > often don't understand their own parties beliefs, and just
> parrot
> > > > > > whatever
> > > > > > > they are told.  From what I can see these are the ones that
> > either
> > > > > > blindly
> > > > > > > follow the party of their parents, or blindly rebelled by
> > choosing
> > > > the
> > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > party.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The differences I see between parties at this point are pretty
> > > small
> > > > in
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > > mind.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Judah McAuley <
> > > > ju...@wiredotter.com
> > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yeah, I've seen "anti-war left now pro-warrior president
> left"
> > > bit
> > > > > > > > quite a lot. It really bugs me. The same folks who would be
> > > > > demonizing
> > > > > > > > Bush or McCain for taking out Bin Laden and then pushing the
> > fact
> > > > > > > > during an election are trumpeting the same thing being done
> by
> > > > Obama.
> > > > > > > > On the other hand, you've got all the guys on the right who
> are
> > > > > trying
> > > > > > > > to shame Obama for pointing out that he made the call to take
> > out
> > > > Bin
> > > > > > > > Laden when Bush was all 9/11 all the time in 2004 and showing
> > up
> > > > in a
> > > > > > > > flight suit on an aircraft carrier under a Mission
> Accomplished
> > > > > > > > banner.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So many people are seemingly into it to support "their guy"
> > > instead
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > trying to support right and wrong and making things better.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Judah
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 7:04 PM, LRS Scout <
> lrssc...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Not a big fan of salon generally, but recently I have
> noticed
> > > > that
> > > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > very upfront when dealing with the difference between
> > reporting
> > > > > > > > > facts,
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > offering opinion.  They have even talked about how the
> > formerly
> > > > > > > > > anti-war left has turned into the pro-warrior president
> left.
> > > >  That
> > > > > > > > > was an interesting stor
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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