This is independent of CF and the file doesn't have to be intentionally
modified while on a pc. 
I've downloaded both .sit and .hqx files to a pc, written both to a cd: the
.sit files do
not decompress while the .hqx files work fine.

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:39:07 -0400
From: "Chad Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Macintosh/CFFILE Problems - Corruption
Message-ID: <001601c258d7$d28c05c0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have always heard that SIT is 8 bit and HQX is 7 bit

So the 8th bit of a SIT file tends to get chopped off if the file is
modified on a PC.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:31 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Macintosh/CFFILE Problems - Corruption
> 
> I've had this same problem using .sit files between Mac and PC ...
When
> I move a .sit to my PC for storage and then bring it over to a Mac to
> use it, the file is corrupt. I believe it has something to do with
> Binary/ASCII file transfers, but I'm not sure.
> 
> HQX works just fine though - odd.
> 
> Joshua Miller
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Van Vliet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:42 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Macintosh/CFFILE Problems - Corruption
> 
> 
> Hey All,
> 
> Have any of you out there experienced corruption problems when
uploading
> files via CFFILE from the Macintosh?
> 
> Here's the scenario:  Administrators upload StuffIt files to the CMS
via
> CFFILE.  The files upload without error, and can be opened on the PC
> just fine.  However, when trying to download and reopen the file from
a
> Mac, the file is seen as corrupt by StuffIt Expander (which happens to
> be the same program which originally compressed the file).
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Scott
> 
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:35:27 -0400
From: Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Code
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  I could be wrong.  In the past the developer edition was the same feature 
set as ColdFusion Enterprise.
  It seems to me that this would be the best approach.  Why should I have 
to pay $5,000 just so I can develop something on my local machine?

At 07:30 AM 9/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 06:51 , Jeffry Houser wrote:
> >   The only differences between ColdFusion MX Enterprise and the
ColdFusion
> > MX Developer Edition is that the Developer edition will only let you
surf
> > from a single IP (And the localhost ).
>
>Hmm, I'm not so sure about that but I'll defer to a product team person
>(or maybe Vern knows?). My understanding was that the Developer Edition
>restricted certain features - in addition to the single IP access - in the
>same way that Pro restricts certain features.
>
>Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
>
>"If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
>-- Margaret Atwood
>
>
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:53:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Code
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

It was my understanding that the developer version is a full fledge 
enterprise as well and restricted to 2 IPs (localhost, and whatever else).  
Jeffry isn't the only one that thought this.

~Todd

On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Sean A Corfield wrote:

> On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 06:51 , Jeffry Houser wrote:
> >   The only differences between ColdFusion MX Enterprise and the
ColdFusion
> > MX Developer Edition is that the Developer edition will only let you
surf
> > from a single IP (And the localhost ).
> 
> Hmm, I'm not so sure about that but I'll defer to a product team person 
> (or maybe Vern knows?). My understanding was that the Developer Edition 
> restricted certain features - in addition to the single IP access - in the

> same way that Pro restricts certain features.
> 
> Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
> 
> "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
> -- Margaret Atwood

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 07:36:28 -0700
From: Sean A Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Code
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 07:15 , Dick Applebaum wrote:
> The Mac comes with a full Native Java system already installed
> (including JDK) -- so any needed Java compiler is already present.

Yes, but it isn't being invoked correctly for the Mac.

> Any idea on what needs to be changed, and where?

No, I haven't investigated it yet (and probably won't have time for a few 
weeks).

> The error I get trying to run the JSP program through 127.0.0.1:8500
> is: below.
> ...
> [1]jrunx.compiler.DefaultCFE: Compiler errors:Java:
> UNIXProcess:forkAndExec: exec failed: Exec format error
>
>          at jrunx.compiler.JavaCompiler.compile(JavaCompiler.java:108)

Yes, that's what I get. So the exec() call used to invoke the Java 
compiler fails.

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 07:42:10 -0700
From: Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Code
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Restricting featueres isn't logical,  considering the purpose of the 
Developer version!

Dick


On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 07:30 AM, Sean A Corfield wrote:

> My understanding was that the Developer Edition
> restricted certain features - in addition to the single IP access - in 
> the
> same way that Pro restricts certain features.

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:54:57 -0600
From: Andre Turrettini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Code
Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hey Joe, I'm a bit new to this java stuff but I would of thought that I
could simply run it.  What do I have to do to get the java code snippet to
run.  Right now, it just passes it to the browser so I can view it in the
source.  Tks.

DRE

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Code


Ok.. code to my post earlier.... i couldnt sleep.. had to test this out... I
was surprised at the results....am NOT posting results.. anyone interested
can use the below code..

JSP code run in CMFX Enterprise
<%
  long z=0;
  for(long x=1;x<=1000000;x++){
        z=z+x;
        }
  out.println(z);
%>

CFM code run in CFMX Enterprise
<cfscript>
 z=0;
 for(x=1;x lte 1000000;x=x+1){
        z=z+x;
        }
 writeOutput(z);
</cfscript>

Joe






-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX)


I am curious..

How does Jsp Scale/Perform against Cfm in the same JRUN or CFMX environment?

Both Jsp and Cfm are compiled servlets right.. so you if you had the same
code in Jsp and Cfm running under CFMX... would there be any performance
difference?


Joe Eugene
Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer



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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:44:58 +0100
From: "Gyrus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: question for MM: CFMX sandboxing security holes?
Message-ID: <003901c258d8$a2cf4cb0$0100a8c0@graham>

Could I get an official line from Macromedia on this?

We're being told by a potential host that they are only offering CF 5 with
CFFILE etc. enabled in a shared environment, secured through sandboxing,
because they've been advised that the sandboxing security in CFMX is not yet
stable. They are offering CFMX accounts, only with all non-secure tags
disabled.

I've not heard about this CFMX sandboxing security issue anywhere here -
what's the company's official position on this?

many thanks,

- Gyrus

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:08:56 -0700
From: Vernon Viehe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Code
Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The product team tells me that the Developer's edition is the Enterprise
Edition plus the IP limitation, so, it's the full feature set.

Vernon Viehe 
ColdFusion Community Manager 
Macromedia, Inc. 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Sean A Corfield
To: CF-Talk
Sent: 9/10/2002 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Code

On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 06:51 , Jeffry Houser wrote:
>   The only differences between ColdFusion MX Enterprise and the
ColdFusion
> MX Developer Edition is that the Developer edition will only let you
surf
> from a single IP (And the localhost ).

Hmm, I'm not so sure about that but I'll defer to a product team person 
(or maybe Vern knows?). My understanding was that the Developer Edition 
restricted certain features - in addition to the single IP access - in
the 
same way that Pro restricts certain features.

Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/

"If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
-- Margaret Atwood


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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:09:22 -0400
From: "Dan Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: question for MM: CFMX sandboxing security holes?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

For what it's worth, we are running CFMX and running sandboxing and allow
use of CFFILE, CFDIRECTORY, and other "non-secure" tags. The server has been
up for just over a month and I've not seen any issues as of yet.


Dan Phillips
CFXHosting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Gyrus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: question for MM: CFMX sandboxing security holes?


Could I get an official line from Macromedia on this?

We're being told by a potential host that they are only offering CF 5 with
CFFILE etc. enabled in a shared environment, secured through sandboxing,
because they've been advised that the sandboxing security in CFMX is not yet
stable. They are offering CFMX accounts, only with all non-secure tags
disabled.

I've not heard about this CFMX sandboxing security issue anywhere here -
what's the company's official position on this?

many thanks,

- Gyrus

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:11:13 -0400
From: "Kevin Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Weird Error.
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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out the error, form, url, session and cgi objects.

Now the error I'm getting says "Error resolving parameter" for a session
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Strange thing is, I only get this error some of the time.

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Thanks in advance,
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:10:46 -0400
From: "Bryan F. Hogan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Nice
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I like the CF Easter Egg
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:13:47 -0400
From: "Joshua Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CFMX on Mandrake 7.2
Message-ID: <000001c258dc$af36f8a0$1755010a@fozzy>

I know it's not supported, but will CFMX run on Mandrake 7.2 (x86) ?
 
If so, anyone know if there's information out there about how to do it?
 
Thanks,
 
Joshua Miller
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:17:58 -0500
From: "Mark A. Kruger - CFG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CF 5 and CFMX and headers
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On 2 boxes with IIS 5 - one running CFMX and one running CF 5, I have the
same code.  On a post request (or any request), the CFMX box has the
following headers in the request:

**************************************
Expires: Thu, 01 Dec 1994 16:00:00 GMT
Cache-Control: no-cache="set-cookie,set-cookie2"

********************************

These headers do NOT exist by default in the CF 5 request. Also,
"Cache-Control" header has a value (no-cache="set-cookie,set-cookie2") that
I've not seen before. Can someone explain?

-mk


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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:14:38 -0400
From: "Joshua Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Macintosh/CFFILE Problems - Corruption
Message-ID: <000501c258dc$cc193a50$1755010a@fozzy>

Ahhhhh .... Thanks for the info, that's been bugging me for some time
now.

Joshua Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-----Original Message-----
From: Chad Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:39 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macintosh/CFFILE Problems - Corruption


I have always heard that SIT is 8 bit and HQX is 7 bit

So the 8th bit of a SIT file tends to get chopped off if the file is
modified on a PC.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:31 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Macintosh/CFFILE Problems - Corruption
> 
> I've had this same problem using .sit files between Mac and PC ...
When
> I move a .sit to my PC for storage and then bring it over to a Mac to 
> use it, the file is corrupt. I believe it has something to do with 
> Binary/ASCII file transfers, but I'm not sure.
> 
> HQX works just fine though - odd.
> 
> Joshua Miller
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Van Vliet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:42 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Macintosh/CFFILE Problems - Corruption
> 
> 
> Hey All,
> 
> Have any of you out there experienced corruption problems when
uploading
> files via CFFILE from the Macintosh?
> 
> Here's the scenario:  Administrators upload StuffIt files to the CMS
via
> CFFILE.  The files upload without error, and can be opened on the PC 
> just fine.  However, when trying to download and reopen the file from
a
> Mac, the file is seen as corrupt by StuffIt Expander (which happens to

> be the same program which originally compressed the file).
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Scott
> 
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:15:28 -0400
From: Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Nice
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  What easter egg?

At 11:10 AM 9/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>I like the CF Easter Egg
>
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:15:46 -0400
From: Kreig Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CFLOGINUSER bug
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I'm posting this here because I haven't had a response on the Macromedia 
CF Security Forum.

I'd like to submit the bug to Macromedia...  anybody got that URL handy?

Found two now! :)

Hi all

While attempting to use the new CF security architecture in our 
pre-existing web application (such as the security architecture is; the 
only attraction for me right now is the CFC security), I've uncovered a 
seeming bug in the CFLOGNUSER tag.

Specifically, when invoked, I have to treat any numeric values with a 
ToString().

That's awfully Java-esque for an un-typed language like CF, is it not?

To test yourself, try the following:

[cflogin]
  [cfloginuser name="HowdyDoody" password="xxxxx" roles="1"]
[/cflogin]

..this should throw one of those bizarro-NEO errors which we love so 
much, complaining about "null null" summat.

Then try:

[cflogin]
  [cfloginuser name="HowdyDoody" password="xxxxx" roles="#ToString(1)#"]
[/cflogin]

..and that works just fine.

How much of an afterthought was this security architecture, Macromedia?



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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:16:41 -0700
From: Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Code
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks Vern,  That's what I expected!

Dick

On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 08:08 AM, Vernon Viehe wrote:

> The product team tells me that the Developer's edition is the 
> Enterprise Edition plus the IP limitation, so, it's the full feature 
> set.

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:16:17 -0400
From: Jesse Noller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: CFMX on Mandrake 7.2
Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Not supported!

(should work tho, minus verity)

Jesse Noller
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Unix/Linux "special guy" 

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:14 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CFMX on Mandrake 7.2
> 
> I know it's not supported, but will CFMX run on Mandrake 7.2 (x86) ?
> 
> If so, anyone know if there's information out there about how to do it?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joshua Miller
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:17:38 -0700
From: Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Nice
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I'll bite -- where?

On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 08:10 AM, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:

> I like the CF Easter Egg
> 
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:18:28 -0400
From: "Bryan F. Hogan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Nice
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

http://cfm.blogspot.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Nice


  What easter egg?

At 11:10 AM 9/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>I like the CF Easter Egg
>

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:27:11 +0200
From: "Benoit Hediard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Weird Error.
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Are you using CFMX and CFC in persistent scopes (session, application...)?

Benoit Hediard
www.benorama.com

-----Message d'origine-----
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Envoye : mardi 10 septembre 2002 17:11
A : CF-Talk
Objet : Weird Error.


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Hi,

I've been getting a strange error recently on some my sites. I have an =
error=20
handler using <cferror> tag that emails me the error message and dumps=20
out the error, form, url, session and cgi objects.

Now the error I'm getting says "Error resolving parameter" for a session
variable, but when I look at the dump for the session object, it is =
defined.

Strange thing is, I only get this error some of the time.

Anybody got any ideas?

Thanks in advance,
Kevin

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Hi,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I've been getting a strange error =
recently on some my sites. I have an error </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">handler using &lt;cferror&gt; tag that =
emails me the error message and dumps </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">out the error, form, url, session and =
cgi objects.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Now the error I'm getting says =
&quot;</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Error resolving =
parameter</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&quot; for a =
session</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">variable, but when I look at the dump =
for the session object, it is defined.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Strange thing is, I only get this error =
some of the time.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Anybody got any ideas?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Thanks in advance,</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Kevin</FONT>
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:21:29 -0400
From: "Angel Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Nice
Message-ID: <000501c258dd$bebb7c50$6400a8c0@dell8200>

*taps foot on floor*
Ok..I'll ask...


WHAT CF Easter Egg??

-Gel

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I like the CF Easter Egg 

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 16:40:12 +0100
From: "Stephen Moretti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Nice
Message-ID: <031b01c258e0$59e5b4a0$f400a8c0@mrnil>

Its not even Easter!!  Be patient... ;o)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Applebaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: Nice


> I'll bite -- where?
>
> On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 08:10 AM, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
>
> > I like the CF Easter Egg
> >
> 
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:39:30 -0400
From: "Kevin Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Weird Error.
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Nope, using CF5.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Benoit Hediard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:27 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Weird Error.
> 
> 
> Are you using CFMX and CFC in persistent scopes (session, 
> application...)?
> 
> Benoit Hediard
> www.benorama.com
> 
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Kevin Wong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Envoye : mardi 10 septembre 2002 17:11
> A : CF-Talk
> Objet : Weird Error.
> 
> 
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've been getting a strange error recently on some my sites. 
> I have an =
> error=20
> handler using <cferror> tag that emails me the error message 
> and dumps=20
> out the error, form, url, session and cgi objects.
> 
> Now the error I'm getting says "Error resolving parameter" 
> for a session
> variable, but when I look at the dump for the session object, it is =
> defined.
> 
> Strange thing is, I only get this error some of the time.
> 
> Anybody got any ideas?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Kevin
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> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Hi,</FONT>
> </P>
> 
> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I've been getting a strange error =
> recently on some my sites. I have an error </FONT>
> 
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">handler using 
> &lt;cferror&gt; tag that =
> emails me the error message and dumps </FONT>
> 
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">out the error, form, url, 
> session and =
> cgi objects.</FONT>
> </P>
> 
> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Now the error I'm getting says =
> &quot;</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Error resolving =
> parameter</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&quot; for a =
> session</FONT>
> 
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">variable, but when I look 
> at the dump =
> for the session object, it is defined.</FONT>
> </P>
> 
> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Strange thing is, I only get 
> this error =
> some of the time.</FONT>
> </P>
> 
> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Anybody got any ideas?</FONT>
> </P>
> 
> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Thanks in advance,</FONT>
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:40:47 -0400
From: Robert Everland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Nice
Message-ID: <4F77505EC4848B4E9F178300F503A64923EC@EXCH2>

One thing to add is move up the language so it's the first one or the trick
won't work.

Robert Everland III
Web Developer Extraordinaire
Dixon Ticonderoga Company
http://www.dixonusa.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Nice


http://cfm.blogspot.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Nice


  What easter egg?

At 11:10 AM 9/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>I like the CF Easter Egg
>


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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 16:44:09 +0100
From: Adrian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Nice
Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

So who's the kid with the three eyes?

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 September 2002 16:40
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Nice


Its not even Easter!!  Be patient... ;o)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Applebaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: Nice


> I'll bite -- where?
>
> On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 08:10 AM, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
>
> > I like the CF Easter Egg
> >
> 

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:44:47 -0400
From: "Raymond Camden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: CFLOGINUSER bug
Message-ID: <005a01c258e1$012b8370$6561a8c0@vader>

> 
> [cflogin]
>   [cfloginuser name="HowdyDoody" password="xxxxx" roles="1"]
> [/cflogin]
> 
> ..this should throw one of those bizarro-NEO errors which we love so 
> much, complaining about "null null" summat.

I'll test this and if I can confirm it, will enter a bug report.


> 
> How much of an afterthought was this security architecture, 
> Macromedia?

Not at all. I know you are being a bit sarcastic, but this _was_ a well
thought feature. That being said, it is 'new' and has a few kinks that
will be worked out in future updates.

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 16:41:14 +0100
From: "Ilyinsky, Igor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: CFMX for J2EE (was: CFMX - relationship between IIS and JRun
Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>You can start and stop CFMX independent of the underlying app server
(JRun).

Actually Sean,
You can't. Since CFMX is an application (not a service or process) it can
not be cycled.
You can only cycle the service it is running on; but that further discredits
my point;
so I'll shut up now. :)

IGOR  ILYINSKY
CREDIT|FIRST
SUISSE|BOSTON
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:48 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX for J2EE (was: CFMX - relationship between IIS and JRun


On Monday, September 9, 2002, at 12:30 , Ilyinsky, Igor wrote:
> The original question was a windows specific one (see subject), so the 
> fact that ColdFusion does not run as a service is indeed important when 
> starting and stopping

As Dave Watts pointed out, starting and stopping the service just uses a 
Windows program to start/stop the CFMX application on the app server.

> From what I understand, with the J2EE version, you do not start and stop 
> ColdFusion itself, you start and stop the app server (or instance that CF 
> is running on).

This is true of CFMX standalone since it runs on top of JRun. You can 
start and stop CFMX independent of the underlying app server (JRun). You 
also have multiple 'application servers' (default, samples - check your 
runtime\servers directory). So it isn't really a big jump between 
standalone (CFMX running on a 'captive' JRun) and "for J2EE" (CFMX running 
on JRun 4).

> Additionally, the fact that ColdFusion is no longer using the registry to 
> store data (on Windows of course) is yet another major architectural 
> difference.

Since the Unix version doesn't use the registry anyway, I don't consider 
this an architectural change. Most of the configuration for CFMX is *not* 
in the registry anyway, even for standalone - it's in XML files on disk.

> Also, the fact that you can literally "copy and paste" a completely new 
> instance of ColdFusion Server, to run independently of any others on the 
> same server, to me, is a HUGE architectural difference.

I suspect the only reason you can't really do this with the standalone 
version is that the 'captive' JRun engine has that feature disabled. 
Architecturally, the change from CF5 to CFMX was huge, I agree, but the 
changes between CFMX standalone and CFMX for J2EE are fairly small.

> I assumed this thread was about ColdFusion's interaction with JRun and 
> IIS. Please correct me if I am wrong.

I vaguely remember how the thread started, but since no one changed the 
subject line when it went off-topic, it's difficult to tell :)

Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:46:31 -0400
From: "Raymond Camden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: CFLOGINUSER bug
Message-ID: <005b01c258e1$3f566e30$6561a8c0@vader>

Kreig, I can't reproduce this bug. Can you show me the complete error
message?

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kreig Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:16 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CFLOGINUSER bug
> 
> 
> I'm posting this here because I haven't had a response on the 
> Macromedia 
> CF Security Forum.
> 
> I'd like to submit the bug to Macromedia...  anybody got that 
> URL handy?
> 
> Found two now! :)
> 
> Hi all
> 
> While attempting to use the new CF security architecture in our 
> pre-existing web application (such as the security 
> architecture is; the 
> only attraction for me right now is the CFC security), I've 
> uncovered a 
> seeming bug in the CFLOGNUSER tag.
> 
> Specifically, when invoked, I have to treat any numeric values with a 
> ToString().
> 
> That's awfully Java-esque for an un-typed language like CF, is it not?
> 
> To test yourself, try the following:
> 
> [cflogin]
>   [cfloginuser name="HowdyDoody" password="xxxxx" roles="1"]
> [/cflogin]
> 
> ..this should throw one of those bizarro-NEO errors which we love so 
> much, complaining about "null null" summat.
> 
> Then try:
> 
> [cflogin]
>   [cfloginuser name="HowdyDoody" password="xxxxx" 
> roles="#ToString(1)#"]
> [/cflogin]
> 
> ..and that works just fine.
> 
> How much of an afterthought was this security architecture, 
> Macromedia?
> 


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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:46:59 +0200
From: Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: question for MM: CFMX sandboxing security holes?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Gyrus wrote:
> Could I get an official line from Macromedia on this?

Probably not here.


> We're being told by a potential host that they are only offering CF 5 with
> CFFILE etc. enabled in a shared environment, secured through sandboxing,
> because they've been advised that the sandboxing security in CFMX is not
yet
> stable. They are offering CFMX accounts, only with all non-secure tags
> disabled.

Find another host. Either they know of bugs and won't tell the 
community, or they don't know what they are talking about. In both cases 
it is not the type of host I would want to do business with.

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:47:36 -0700
From: Sam Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Nice
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Set your Language preference to "CFML" in IE you can do this by going to
Internet Properties -> Languages -> Add -> User Defined "CFML" Then browse
to Version Information link in ColdFusion MX Administrator.


-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 8:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Nice


Its not even Easter!!  Be patient... ;o)


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From: "Dick Applebaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: Nice


> I'll bite -- where?
>
> On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 08:10 AM, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
>
> > I like the CF Easter Egg
> >
> 

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:47:59 -0400
From: "Tony Carcieri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Nice
Message-ID: <003201c258e1$7109f8c0$7e0000c7@RISS246TCC>

Ok, I tried it and didn't see anything different...does this work on DWMX
version?

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Nice


Its not even Easter!!  Be patient... ;o)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Applebaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: Nice


> I'll bite -- where?
>
> On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 08:10 AM, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
>
> > I like the CF Easter Egg
> >
>

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:03:12 -0700
From: Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Code
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Replying to my own post:

Downloaded & Installed Tomcat Java Web Services Developer Pack from Sun.

So, now I can run the JSP program --- It gives identical results as the 
cfm program.

        500000500000

What are the results when you run the JSP program under CFMX/JRun?

TIA

Dick

On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 06:36 AM, Dick Applebaum wrote:

> What  do you need to do to run JSP code on CFMX Enterprise (Developer)?
>
> TIA
>
> Dick
>
> On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 05:33 AM, Stacy Young wrote:
>
>> Identical on my end...
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 12:58 AM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Code
>>
>> Ok.. code to my post earlier.... i couldnt sleep.. had to test this
>> out...
>> I was surprised at the results....am NOT posting results..
>> anyone interested can use the below code..
>>
>> JSP code run in CMFX Enterprise
>> <%
>>   long z=0;
>>   for(long x=1;x<=1000000;x++){
>>      z=z+x;
>>      }
>>   out.println(z);
>> %>
>>
>> CFM code run in CFMX Enterprise
>> <cfscript>
>>  z=0;
>>  for(x=1;x lte 1000000;x=x+1){
>>      z=z+x;
>>      }
>>  writeOutput(z);
>> </cfscript>
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:29 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX)
>>
>>
>> I am curious..
>>
>> How does Jsp Scale/Perform against Cfm in the same JRUN or CFMX
>> environment?
>>
>> Both Jsp and Cfm are compiled servlets right.. so you if you had the
>> same
>> code in Jsp and Cfm running under CFMX... would there be any
>> performance
>> difference?
>>
>>
>> Joe Eugene
>> Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:23:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Nice
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

DWMX? *eyes Tony*

No, they meant to do that in IE and .. you have to make sure that CFMX is 
1st in the list, highlight it and move it up.

~Todd

On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Tony Carcieri wrote:

> Ok, I tried it and didn't see anything different...does this work on DWMX
> version?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:40 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Nice
> 
> 
> Its not even Easter!!  Be patient... ;o)
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dick Applebaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 4:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Nice
> 
> 
> > I'll bite -- where?
> >
> > On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 08:10 AM, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
> >
> > > I like the CF Easter Egg
> > >
> >
> 
> 
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:09:03 +0100
From: Adrian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Nice
Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

He means CFML :O)

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 September 2002 17:23
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Nice


DWMX? *eyes Tony*

No, they meant to do that in IE and .. you have to make sure that CFMX is 
1st in the list, highlight it and move it up.

~Todd

On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Tony Carcieri wrote:

> Ok, I tried it and didn't see anything different...does this work on DWMX
> version?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:40 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Nice
> 
> 
> Its not even Easter!!  Be patient... ;o)
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dick Applebaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 4:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Nice
> 
> 
> > I'll bite -- where?
> >
> > On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 08:10 AM, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
> >
> > > I like the CF Easter Egg
> > >
> >
> 
> 

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:27:30 -0400
From: "Jamie Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SOT: Delivering MSSQL DB to Client
Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

What's the usual way to deliver a MSSQL (7) DB to the client? (IOW, How do
you get it portable, so they can replicate the DB and data on their server?)

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:29:38 -0700
From: Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Nice
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

It doesn't work on a Mac -- why doesn't that surprise me?

Dick

On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 08:18 AM, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:

> http://cfm.blogspot.com/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:15 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Nice
>
>
>   What easter egg?
>
> At 11:10 AM 9/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>> I like the CF Easter Egg
>>
>
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:27:57 -0300
From: Marcello Frutig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CFMX: how to deal with type java.util.Hashtable$Enumerator
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello!

I'm calling a Java method in CFMX that is returning an object of type
java.util.Hashtable$Enumerator. How could I deal with this object in CFML in
order to get the elements/values? I've tried to use the methods next(), etc.
without success.

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:17:58 -0400
From: joe hobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OT: ecommerce live chat case study
Message-ID: <2C6847D4-1494-4389-86ACF2205129E1F6>

I run a CF-based professional development site and we offer 9-5 live Help
Desk support to our users via a Flash-based chatroom. You can buy that
package at http://www.cfchat.net and customize the code at will, just like
we did. It integrates quite nicely with the rest of our system. Of course
you could roll your own, but I've been down that road, and you won't get all
the features you want by simply dragging and dropping (much like HTML and
WYSIWYG editors).

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:32:00 -0700
From: Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Nice
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Well, moving cfml up changes things--

Now I get a popup titlled "ColdFusion MX Team".

It has a nice light-blue background and a framed area that remains 
empty.

I guess it reflects the fact that there is no support for the Mac 
platform!

Dick


On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 08:40 AM, Robert Everland wrote:

> One thing to add is move up the language so it's the first one or the 
> trick
> won't work.
>
> Robert Everland III
> Web Developer Extraordinaire
> Dixon Ticonderoga Company
> http://www.dixonusa.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:18 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Nice
>
>
> http://cfm.blogspot.com/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:15 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Nice
>
>
>   What easter egg?
>
> At 11:10 AM 9/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>> I like the CF Easter Egg
>>
>
>
> 
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:32:47 -0400
From: Jesse Noller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Nice
Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Well, it could be because Mac's Aren't Supported! /snipe

Jesse Noller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Macromedia Server Development
Unix/Linux "special guy" 

"But I neeeeed tacos! I need them or I will
explode! That happens to me sometimes!" -GIR

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 12:30 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Nice
> 
> It doesn't work on a Mac -- why doesn't that surprise me?
> 
> Dick
> 
> On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 08:18 AM, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
> 
> > http://cfm.blogspot.com/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:15 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Nice
> >
> >
> >   What easter egg?
> >
> > At 11:10 AM 9/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >> I like the CF Easter Egg
> >>
> >
> >
> 
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:35:39 -0400
From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Nice
Message-ID: <0afe01c258e8$198097b0$0201010a@hoot_com>

Or, you can cheat (once you log in to administrator):

http://localhost:8500/cfide/administrator/settings/_licensedata.cfm?serializ
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sam Roach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:47 AM
Subject: RE: Nice


> Set your Language preference to "CFML" in IE you can do this by going to
> Internet Properties -> Languages -> Add -> User Defined "CFML" Then browse
> to Version Information link in ColdFusion MX Administrator.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 8:40 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Nice
> 
> 
> Its not even Easter!!  Be patient... ;o)
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dick Applebaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 4:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Nice
> 
> 
> > I'll bite -- where?
> >
> > On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 08:10 AM, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
> >
> > > I like the CF Easter Egg
> > >
> > 
> 
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:42:28 -0400
From: Lewis Sellers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CFMX - Slow, why?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:52:15 -0700, in cf-talk you wrote:

>Actually, that is not entirely correct. While it is fair to say that
>CFMX makes use of a just-in-time (JIT) compiler, many people in the
>industry have a different notion as to what that means. Specifically, a
>JIT generally is thought to compile code in machine code just in time to
>execute it. With CFMX, CFML code is compiled into Java bytecode, which
>is then interpreted by the Java interpreter. A specialized version of
>the Java interpreter called HotSpot includes a JIT that compiles parts
>(hot spots) of the Java bytecode to machine code and executes them just

I assumed I wasn't "entirely" correct, but that it was close enough
for his purposes. But, that's interesting about the, um... JIS
(Just-In-Spot :) compiler strategy. Hadn't really had time to read up
on the details of CFMX operation yet, so I wasn't aware of that.

It makes me cringe a bit thinking about it. There are so many more
things that could theoretically go wrong with a JIS strategy...  but I
guess it works fairly well -- It's about the only thing I think
nobody's complained about yet.

>in time. Further, VB is not a compiled language; it is interpreted as
>well.

Mind you, I haven't seriously used VB since a cgi project back in 1997
but I was under the impression it was an option to compile your VB
code these days. I could easily be wrong though.  Not that I guess it
matters all that much, VB being a dead language now.

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:00:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Nice
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Probably because it's Flash using Flash Remoting.  Dick, no offense, but 
.. if you're on a unsupported platform, why would you even bother to 
comment about it?  The rest of us are just going to say.. "noooo sh!t"

~Todd

On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Jesse Noller wrote:

> Well, it could be because Mac's Aren't Supported! /snipe
> 
> Jesse Noller
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Macromedia Server Development
> Unix/Linux "special guy" 
> 
> "But I neeeeed tacos! I need them or I will
> explode! That happens to me sometimes!" -GIR
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 12:30 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Nice
> > 
> > It doesn't work on a Mac -- why doesn't that surprise me?
> > 
> > Dick

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:42:59 -0700
From: "charlie griefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SQL query woes...cf 4.5 v 5.0
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

hey all... 

i have a query running against an Access database.  on CF 5, works fine.  on

cf 4.5, i get a SQL error. 

ODBC Error Code = S1000 (General error)
[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Join expression not supported. 

the JOIN looks like this:
FROM items INNER JOIN divorder ON val(left(items.costCtr,1)) = 
divOrder.ccStart 

basically, i need to take the value from a column of one table 
(divOrder.ccStart) and join it on the first character from the column of 
another table (items.costCtr).  further funkiness in that one column is 
numeric (divOrder.ccStart), and one is text (items.costCtr). 

Even so, the query worked on CF 5. 

This is the first instance that I've encountered tho where CF versions 
(supposedly) would be involved in successfully executing a particular query.


I guess what I'm wondering is...can anybody possibly confirm that it is CF?

is there anything else that i should be looking at?  And if it is CF, why? 
:) 

thanks,
charlie 

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:44:23 -0600
From: "Ben Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Delivering MSSQL DB to Client
Message-ID: <000001c258e9$525ce880$1200a8c0@thinkpad>

> What's the usual way to deliver a MSSQL (7) DB to the client? 
> (IOW, How do you get it portable, so they can replicate the 
> DB and data on their server?)

Jamie,
        Do you need to send a database structure & a little bit of data
or a database structure and a LOT of data?  If you're not sending a lot
of data, you can send the SQL scripts.  Right click the database in
Enterprise Manager and choose Generate SQL Scripts.  Then if you don't
have much data, you can create SQL scripts for the inserts.  
        

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:47:15 -0700
From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ecommerce live chat case study
Message-ID: <017a01c258e9$b863fce0$6501a8c0@ectwork>

Joe..how was your post associated with a case study and not just spam?? ;-)
Did I miss something there?

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Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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From: "joe hobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:17 AM
Subject: OT: ecommerce live chat case study


> I run a CF-based professional development site and we offer 9-5 live Help
Desk support to our users via a Flash-based chatroom. You can buy that
package at http://www.cfchat.net and customize the code at will, just like
we did. It integrates quite nicely with the rest of our system. Of course
you could roll your own, but I've been down that road, and you won't get all
the features you want by simply dragging and dropping (much like HTML and
WYSIWYG editors).
>
>  . . . .. . . . joe
>
> 
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:56:16 -0500
From: "Mitko Gerensky-Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Delivering MSSQL DB to Client
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

SQL Server 7/2000 has a very handy Import/Export facility. Using it you can
specify the source and destination servers and you can export both the
database structure and the data.

Hope that helps,

Mitko
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Ben Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:44:23 -0600

>> What's the usual way to deliver a MSSQL (7) DB to the client? 
>> (IOW, How do you get it portable, so they can replicate the 
>> DB and data on their server?)
>
>Jamie,
>       Do you need to send a database structure & a little bit of data
>or a database structure and a LOT of data?  If you're not sending a lot
>of data, you can send the SQL scripts.  Right click the database in
>Enterprise Manager and choose Generate SQL Scripts.  Then if you don't
>have much data, you can create SQL scripts for the inserts.  
>       
>
>Ben Johnson
>Information Architect
>www.architekture.com
>[p] 720.934.2179
> 
>
>
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:56:28 +0100
From: "Stephen Moretti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Nice
Message-ID: <043801c258eb$01d46210$f400a8c0@mrnil>

> It doesn't work on a Mac -- why doesn't that surprise me?
>
> Dick
>
> On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 08:18 AM, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
>
> > http://cfm.blogspot.com/
> >
> >   What easter egg?
> >
> > At 11:10 AM 9/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >> I like the CF Easter Egg
> >>


Ok I shouldn't really do this on CF-Talk, but I can't resist.....  Sorry
Michael.....

Does anything work on a Mac???

Sorry Dick.... Only joking!


Stephen


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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:03:44 -0400
From: "Joe Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Code
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Dick,
The subject of the post was "Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX)".. Yes both code blocks
should show same OUTPUT... unless there is problem with the language
or difference in code blocks(Jsp Vs Cfm).

Joe


>From: Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Code
>Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:03:12 -0700
>
>Replying to my own post:
>
>Downloaded & Installed Tomcat Java Web Services Developer Pack from Sun.
>
>So, now I can run the JSP program --- It gives identical results as the
>cfm program.
>
>       500000500000
>
>What are the results when you run the JSP program under CFMX/JRun?
>
>TIA
>
>Dick
>
>On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 06:36 AM, Dick Applebaum wrote:
>
> > What  do you need to do to run JSP code on CFMX Enterprise (Developer)?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Dick
> >
> > On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 05:33 AM, Stacy Young wrote:
> >
> >> Identical on my end...
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 12:58 AM
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: RE: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Code
> >>
> >> Ok.. code to my post earlier.... i couldnt sleep.. had to test this
> >> out...
> >> I was surprised at the results....am NOT posting results..
> >> anyone interested can use the below code..
> >>
> >> JSP code run in CMFX Enterprise
> >> <%
> >>   long z=0;
> >>   for(long x=1;x<=1000000;x++){
> >>    z=z+x;
> >>    }
> >>   out.println(z);
> >> %>
> >>
> >> CFM code run in CFMX Enterprise
> >> <cfscript>
> >>  z=0;
> >>  for(x=1;x lte 1000000;x=x+1){
> >>    z=z+x;
> >>    }
> >>  writeOutput(z);
> >> </cfscript>
> >>
> >> Joe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:29 PM
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX)
> >>
> >>
> >> I am curious..
> >>
> >> How does Jsp Scale/Perform against Cfm in the same JRUN or CFMX
> >> environment?
> >>
> >> Both Jsp and Cfm are compiled servlets right.. so you if you had the
> >> same
> >> code in Jsp and Cfm running under CFMX... would there be any
> >> performance
> >> difference?
> >>
> >>
> >> Joe Eugene
> >> Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:06:00 -0400
From: "Tony Carcieri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Nice
Message-ID: <003501c258ec$574ff820$7e0000c7@RISS246TCC>

Sorry, shoulda been more specific...I have the eval version from the DWMX
cd.

As far as the settings in IE, I did it. Including throwing the language da
top.

Thanks,
Big T

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 12:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Nice


DWMX? *eyes Tony*

No, they meant to do that in IE and .. you have to make sure that CFMX is
1st in the list, highlight it and move it up.

~Todd

On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Tony Carcieri wrote:

> Ok, I tried it and didn't see anything different...does this work on DWMX
> version?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:40 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Nice
>
>
> Its not even Easter!!  Be patient... ;o)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dick Applebaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 4:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Nice
>
>
> > I'll bite -- where?
> >
> > On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 08:10 AM, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
> >
> > > I like the CF Easter Egg
> > >
> >
>
>

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:08:35 -0700
From: John Gedeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Exception Names
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I am trying to catch exceptions thrown by my application. I was wondering 
if there was a place where all the exeptions thrown are listed... ie all 
the database exception names?

John


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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:12:41 -0400
From: "Joe Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SOT: Delivering MSSQL DB to Client
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Jamie,
     You can create a BACKUP of the database and send the client..just one 
file.. they can use the file.. to create the new Database they need 
.import/export..whatever.

Joe

>From: "Jamie Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: SOT: Delivering MSSQL DB to Client
>Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:27:30 -0400
>
>What's the usual way to deliver a MSSQL (7) DB to the client? (IOW, How do 
>you get it portable, so they can replicate the DB and data on their 
>server?)
>
>Thanks,
>Jamie
>
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:12:17 -0700
From: Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Developer Platform suggestions was Re: Nice
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Ya' know, it gets pretty old...  I am beginning to accept the fact that 
as a Mac/CF developer, I will always be a second-class citizen, and not 
have equal resources with the competition.

So, I am open to suggestions:

If you could chose a platform today, with no baggage, what would it be?

I am seriously looking for suggestions!

TIA

Dick


On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 09:56 AM, Stephen Moretti wrote:

>> It doesn't work on a Mac -- why doesn't that surprise me?
>>
>> Dick
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 08:18 AM, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
>>
>>> http://cfm.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>   What easter egg?
>>>
>>> At 11:10 AM 9/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>>> I like the CF Easter Egg
>>>>
>
>
> Ok I shouldn't really do this on CF-Talk, but I can't resist.....  
> Sorry
> Michael.....
>
> Does anything work on a Mac???
>
> Sorry Dick.... Only joking!
>
>
> Stephen
>
>
> 
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:18:24 -0700
From: Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Code
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Joe

 From the post, I got the impression that there was a difference running 
the code blocks under CFMX (otherwise, what is the point of the post)?

I could not run the JSP code block under my CFMX, because I run on the 
Mac.

I did run the JSP code block under Tomcat and it gave the same results 
as the CFM code block on CFMX on the Mac.

So, I guess my questions are:

Is there a difference running the JSP and CFM code blocks on a 
supported CFMX platform?

If so, what is the difference?

TIA

Dick


On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 10:03 AM, Joe Eugene wrote:

> Dick,
> The subject of the post was "Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX)".. Yes both code blocks
> should show same OUTPUT... unless there is problem with the language
> or difference in code blocks(Jsp Vs Cfm).
>
> Joe
>
>
>> From: Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Code
>> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:03:12 -0700
>>
>> Replying to my own post:
>>
>> Downloaded & Installed Tomcat Java Web Services Developer Pack from 
>> Sun.
>>
>> So, now I can run the JSP program --- It gives identical results as 
>> the
>> cfm program.
>>
>>      500000500000
>>
>> What are the results when you run the JSP program under CFMX/JRun?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Dick
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 06:36 AM, Dick Applebaum wrote:
>>
>>> What  do you need to do to run JSP code on CFMX Enterprise 
>>> (Developer)?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> Dick
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 05:33 AM, Stacy Young wrote:
>>>
>>>> Identical on my end...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 12:58 AM
>>>> To: CF-Talk
>>>> Subject: RE: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Code
>>>>
>>>> Ok.. code to my post earlier.... i couldnt sleep.. had to test this
>>>> out...
>>>> I was surprised at the results....am NOT posting results..
>>>> anyone interested can use the below code..
>>>>
>>>> JSP code run in CMFX Enterprise
>>>> <%
>>>>   long z=0;
>>>>   for(long x=1;x<=1000000;x++){
>>>>    z=z+x;
>>>>    }
>>>>   out.println(z);
>>>> %>
>>>>
>>>> CFM code run in CFMX Enterprise
>>>> <cfscript>
>>>>  z=0;
>>>>  for(x=1;x lte 1000000;x=x+1){
>>>>    z=z+x;
>>>>    }
>>>>  writeOutput(z);
>>>> </cfscript>
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:29 PM
>>>> To: CF-Talk
>>>> Subject: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am curious..
>>>>
>>>> How does Jsp Scale/Perform against Cfm in the same JRUN or CFMX
>>>> environment?
>>>>
>>>> Both Jsp and Cfm are compiled servlets right.. so you if you had the
>>>> same
>>>> code in Jsp and Cfm running under CFMX... would there be any
>>>> performance
>>>> difference?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe Eugene
>>>> Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:18:36 -0400
From: "Tipton Josh (orl1jdt)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: SOT: Delivering MSSQL DB to Client
Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

YOu can do what is called detach on a database. Then send the client the db
and have a little exe that I wrote to copy the db to a directory and run
sp_attach_db.  Look in books on line it has all the info needed.

Joshua Tipton


sp_detach_db (T-SQL)
Detaches a database from a server and, optionally, runs UPDATE STATISTICS on
all tables before detaching.

Syntax
sp_detach_db [@dbname =] 'dbname'
    [, [@skipchecks =] 'skipchecks']

Arguments
[@dbname =] 'dbname' 
Is the name of the database to be detached. dbname is sysname, with a
default value of NULL. 
[@skipchecks =] 'skipchecks' 
skipchecks is nvarchar(10), with a default value of NULL. If true, UPDATE
STATISTICS is skipped. If false, UPDATE STATISTICS is run. This option is
useful for databases that are to be moved to read-only media. 
Return Code Values
0 (success) or 1 (failure)

Result Sets
None

Remarks
The detached files remain and can be reattached using sp_attach_db or
sp_attach_single_file_db. The files can also be moved to another server and
attached.

Permissions
Only members of the sysadmin fixed server role can execute sp_detach_db.

Examples
This example detaches the pubs database with skipchecks set to true.

EXEC sp_detach_db 'pubs', 'true'

  


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 1:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOT: Delivering MSSQL DB to Client


Jamie,
     You can create a BACKUP of the database and send the client..just one 
file.. they can use the file.. to create the new Database they need 
import/export..whatever.

Joe

>From: "Jamie Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: SOT: Delivering MSSQL DB to Client
>Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:27:30 -0400
>
>What's the usual way to deliver a MSSQL (7) DB to the client? (IOW, How do 
>you get it portable, so they can replicate the DB and data on their 
>server?)
>
>Thanks,
>Jamie
>

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:25:59 -0400
From: "Marius Milosav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CFMX unicode problem
Message-ID: <036701c258ef$2108fb60$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi,

I really hope that somebody can shed some light with this issue (Hint, hint
Macromedia)

We have one application that was fully translated in Korean (using CF5)
With CFMX the previously translated data cannot be properly display by CFMX
, so we had to manually retrieve the data and re save it.
On our development server CFMX version 6,0,0,48097 the data is properly
displayed and can be saved in the database SQL 2000 sp 2
We had moved the database to the customer server,:CFMX with the same
version: 6,0,0,48097
SQL Server 2000 sp 2


On their server the data is properly displayed in Korean but all new data
that is saved it display garbage.

The reason for that is that the data passed to the action page is already
garbage.(did a dump on the action page)
The problem looks similar with issue 44978. But we are not using
enctpe="multipart/form-data" just a normal post.

Again, what is most disturbing is that the same application with the same
CFMX server works OK on our development server.

The Korean partner is really pissed off as we had to delay the launch 3
months because they were not able to get the Korean version of CFMX(it looks
that CFMX Korean was just release) and because CFMX could not read Unicode
saved with CF5 so we couldn't sell on CF5 and migrate to CFMX after. They
lost two customers already because of the delay

They are supposed to have a demo for a customer tomorrow and now this
problem. They are scared to sell it as they don't know what other problems
are there.

Any help, pointers are greatly appreciated.
hopefully somebody from Macromedia can help. I really hope that Macromedia
will fix these issues (related to Unicode discrepancies) in the sp1.
BTW is there a final date for CFMX sp1?

thank you
Marius Milosav
www.scorpiosoft.com
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:17:30 -0400
From: "Joe Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Developer Platform suggestions was Re: Nice
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Windows 2k
Advantages.
CF(CFMX) Development
JSP(CFMX) or Tomcat Development
NET Development
SQL Server
Oracle

Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Applebaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 1:12 PM
Subject: Developer Platform suggestions was Re: Nice


> Ya' know, it gets pretty old...  I am beginning to accept the fact that
> as a Mac/CF developer, I will always be a second-class citizen, and not
> have equal resources with the competition.
>
> So, I am open to suggestions:
>
> If you could chose a platform today, with no baggage, what would it be?
>
> I am seriously looking for suggestions!
>
> TIA
>
> Dick
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 09:56 AM, Stephen Moretti wrote:
>
> >> It doesn't work on a Mac -- why doesn't that surprise me?
> >>
> >> Dick
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 08:18 AM, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://cfm.blogspot.com/
> >>>
> >>>   What easter egg?
> >>>
> >>> At 11:10 AM 9/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >>>> I like the CF Easter Egg
> >>>>
> >
> >
> > Ok I shouldn't really do this on CF-Talk, but I can't resist.....
> > Sorry
> > Michael.....
> >
> > Does anything work on a Mac???
> >
> > Sorry Dick.... Only joking!
> >
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> >
> >
> 
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:23:05 -0700
From: Sean A Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CFMX for J2EE (was: CFMX - relationship between IIS and JRun
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 08:41 , Ilyinsky, Igor wrote:
>> You can start and stop CFMX independent of the underlying app server 
>> (JRun).
> Actually Sean,
> You can't. Since CFMX is an application (not a service or process) it can 
> not be cycled.

Well, the ColdFusion MX application seems to set up as an MBean 'service' 
which can certainly be stopped independently of JRun using the JMX 
interface. I haven't tried pressing all the buttons but JMX lets you stop 
services individually. Curiosity overwhelmed me - stopping that service 
alone is not sufficient to disable CF... I'm sure if you click enough 
buttons you *can* stop and start CF without adversely affecting the 
underlying JRun system...

Enable the HttpAdaptor on port 8082 by uncommenting the relevant lines in 
jrun.xml (I think). Then access http://127.0.0.1:8082/ and go exploring... 
Very interesting stuff! Caveat: if you break your system by doing this, 
don't blame me... the JMX interface is powerful!

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:24:07 -0700
From: Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Nice
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Todd

I doubt that Flash Remoting is the problem -- Christian Cantrell gave a 
Flash Remotiing presentation to a Recent FlashForward entirely on a Mac 
(Server and Client).  Christian is co-authoring a book on the subjace 
with Mike Chambers... Christian tells me he does all his development on 
a Mac.

I do take offense.  The reason I asked is that most of the participants 
of this list will help others even on topics of no immediate value to 
themselves.

Dick


On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Probably because it's Flash using Flash Remoting.  Dick, no offense, 
> but
> .. if you're on a unsupported platform, why would you even bother to
> comment about it?  The rest of us are just going to say.. "noooo sh!t"
>
> ~Todd
>
> On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Jesse Noller wrote:
>
>> Well, it could be because Mac's Aren't Supported! /snipe
>>
>> Jesse Noller
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Macromedia Server Development
>> Unix/Linux "special guy"
>>
>> "But I neeeeed tacos! I need them or I will
>> explode! That happens to me sometimes!" -GIR
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 12:30 PM
>>> To: CF-Talk
>>> Subject: Re: Nice
>>>
>>> It doesn't work on a Mac -- why doesn't that surprise me?
>>>
>>> Dick
>
> -- 
> ============================================================
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> http://www.flashCFM.com/   - webRat (Moderator)            |
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> ============================================================
>
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:15:24 -0600
From: "Jason Egan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Delivering MSSQL DB to Client
Message-ID: <006501c258ed$a6cf6ba0$3d7a3fd1@Louie>

Yes, doing a SQL to SQL transfer is the best - you get all extended
properties etc... 

Jason
CFDynamics.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mitko Gerensky-Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:56 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Delivering MSSQL DB to Client
> 
> 
> SQL Server 7/2000 has a very handy Import/Export facility. 
> Using it you can specify the source and destination servers 
> and you can export both the database structure and the data.
> 
> Hope that helps,
> 
> Mitko
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Ben Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date:  Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:44:23 -0600
> 
> >> What's the usual way to deliver a MSSQL (7) DB to the client?
> >> (IOW, How do you get it portable, so they can replicate the 
> >> DB and data on their server?)
> >
> >Jamie,
> >     Do you need to send a database structure & a little bit 
> of data or a 
> >database structure and a LOT of data?  If you're not sending 
> a lot of 
> >data, you can send the SQL scripts.  Right click the database in 
> >Enterprise Manager and choose Generate SQL Scripts.  Then if 
> you don't 
> >have much data, you can create SQL scripts for the inserts.
> >     
> >
> >Ben Johnson
> >Information Architect
> >www.architekture.com
> >[p] 720.934.2179
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> 
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:22:30 -0400
From: Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Developer Platform suggestions was Re: Nice
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  I've used Windows 9x and they worked okay as long as you rebooted at 
least once a day (preferably twice).

  I use Windows 2000 now.  I've had few problems and the system is very 
stable, even if I don't reboot it for 3-4 days.

At 10:12 AM 9/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Ya' know, it gets pretty old...  I am beginning to accept the fact that
>as a Mac/CF developer, I will always be a second-class citizen, and not
>have equal resources with the competition.
>
>So, I am open to suggestions:
>
>If you could chose a platform today, with no baggage, what would it be?
>
>I am seriously looking for suggestions!
>
>TIA
>
>Dick
>
>
>On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 09:56 AM, Stephen Moretti wrote:
>
> >> It doesn't work on a Mac -- why doesn't that surprise me?
> >>
> >> Dick
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 08:18 AM, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://cfm.blogspot.com/
> >>>
> >>>   What easter egg?
> >>>
> >>> At 11:10 AM 9/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >>>> I like the CF Easter Egg
> >>>>
> >
> >
> > Ok I shouldn't really do this on CF-Talk, but I can't resist.....
> > Sorry
> > Michael.....
> >
> > Does anything work on a Mac???
> >
> > Sorry Dick.... Only joking!
> >
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> >
> >
>
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:26:25 -0700
From: Sean A Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Code
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 08:04 , Vernon Viehe wrote:
> The product team tells me that the Developer's edition is the Enterprise 
> Edition plus the IP limitation, so, it's the full feature set.

I stand corrected. Thank you!

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:26:22 -0600
From: "Willy Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CF encrypt() and SQL
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Ok here's what's going on:

I'm using the encrypt() function to encrypt data as it goes into my
database.

Like this:

<cfquery datasource="#application.dsn#" name="insertencrypteddata">
UPDATE mytable
SET myvalue= '#encrypt("#FORM.myvalue#","mykey")#'
WHERE id = #FORM.id"
</cfquery>

Some of you probably already know what my problem is.  Sometimes this
works fine.  Other times the encrypted values have characters in them
that (like single-quote) that break my query.  Anybody been through
this?  Solutions?

Thanks in advance

Willy




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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:28:20 -0700
From: Sean A Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Code
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Monday, September 9, 2002, at 09:58 , Joe Eugene wrote:
> Ok.. code to my post earlier.... i couldnt sleep.. had to test this out..
> .
> I was surprised at the results....am NOT posting results..
> anyone interested can use the below code..

OK, so far folks have run your code and it behaves identically on both 
systems. If you have something else in mind, perhaps you'd like to post 
code that actually shows what difference you are seeing?

I'm guessing that your beef is the time each takes but without you 
providing code that actually times the execution, we're not going to know,
  are we? Bear in mind that a lot of folks here don't know how to 
instrument the Java code so that it times itself...

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:44:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Developer Platform suggestions was Re: Nice
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

If the majority of the program I ran wasn't windows based, I'd run 
redhat linux.  Dick, I think you're going about this the wrong way tho.  
OSX shows a lot of promise from what I've seen (despite that it's a day 
and a dollar too late).  Hell, I'm jealous of OSX that it runs on top of a 
stable platform like BSD.  There is nothing inheritantly wrong with OSX 
and the MyOS is better than YourOS is always going to be a heated 
discussion.  I'd seriously invest in another layer of humor and thick 
skin and not worry about it so much.

If you really want to make everyone happy on the list (opposed to 
yourself) then... get a wintel or redhat box for the purpose of a 
development server.  I don't think you realized the can of worms you 
opened on yourself when you ported CFMX to OSX. ;)

~Todd

On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Dick Applebaum wrote:

> Ya' know, it gets pretty old...  I am beginning to accept the fact that 
> as a Mac/CF developer, I will always be a second-class citizen, and not 
> have equal resources with the competition.
> 
> So, I am open to suggestions:
> 
> If you could chose a platform today, with no baggage, what would it be?
> 
> I am seriously looking for suggestions!
> 
> TIA
> 
> Dick
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 09:56 AM, Stephen Moretti wrote:
> 
> >> It doesn't work on a Mac -- why doesn't that surprise me?
> >>
> >> Dick
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 08:18 AM, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://cfm.blogspot.com/
> >>>
> >>>   What easter egg?
> >>>
> >>> At 11:10 AM 9/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >>>> I like the CF Easter Egg
> >>>>
> >
> >
> > Ok I shouldn't really do this on CF-Talk, but I can't resist.....  
> > Sorry
> > Michael.....
> >
> > Does anything work on a Mac???
> >
> > Sorry Dick.... Only joking!
> >
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> >
> > 
> 
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