Here here. I totally agree. I am in the process of debugging a very
messy and extremely undocumented site created totally in Fusebox. Talk
about a nightmare. After sifting thru a dozen includes, I finally
tracked down the issue and am fixing it. Whoever said that FB is self
documenting must not be commenting his/her code. If this person had just
added comments to the header of each document, it would be so much
easier to track down and debug these applications. But then, I guess
that this goes for any application written.

IMHO that is.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 12:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Fusebox - opinions?

Hey all,

Lets see....

I started doing Fusebox before there was a Fusebox and quickly dropped
it.
It seemed to produce an extremely messy control document (I guess it's
always index.cfm nowadays?).  About a year or 2 after it really started
to
spread throughout the CF community I joined a few Fusebox lists and
lurked
for a bit.  I was shocked to find all the wasted effort writing custom
tags
and workarounds just to use the method!!

I say if you write an application in a logical fashion and comment
everything, then any other developer can work on it just as easily as
you
can.  The bonus is you can write it faster than in Fusebox.

my 2 cents...flame away ;-)

Bryan Stevenson
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
p. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Allaire Alliance Partner
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas L. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: Fusebox - opinions?


> Here is a few opinions...
>
>
> Pros
>
> 1. FB is great on large scale apps, this allows several developers to
have
> production on a single site and allows for "specialty" type of
production.
> IE: the DBA can work on queries, while the CF programmer works on the
front
> end of things etc.
>
> 2. Code reuse..With the FB methodology, queries can be more like
stored
> procedures, where the front end and backend remain somewhat seperate
from
> eachother. This allows for the front end to be modified without a
hitch.
>
> Cons
>
> 1. Not the greatest thing for smaller applications, unless you are an
> unorganized person. You can probably code faster without it if you are
> making a small app.
>
> 2. Jumping back and forth between all the folders that is used to keep
track
> of your application. IE: _dsp, _act, _scripts, _css, _qry, _images etc
etc.
> If you are doing the site by yourself, this can become tiresome. First
you
> have to look at your index.cfm to see what query you were using on a
> particular page and then go to the _qry folder to find the file
>
> All said, I think the pros out weight the cons and would suggest it to
> pretty much anyone who is developing large apps and has a team of
developers
> working on a site. The book(fusebox methodologies and techniques) is a
so
so
> reader, some things are over emphasised and not really to the meat of
the
> matter. It is a good way to learn the basics, and it did help me to
> understand what FB could do for me. The downloadable e-book is well
woth
the
> $$, but would not suggest paying for the actual book.
>
>
>
> DB
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gyrus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 8:28 AM
> Subject: Re: Fusebox - opinions?
>
>
> > > 1.Fusebox is a coding methodology. It's like picking a certain
writing
> > > style. It trys to maximize code reuse by structuring the way you
write
> > your
> > > code. It also lends itself to self documentation.
> >
> > I've seen most of the presentations on www.fusebox.org
> > and understand what Fusebox is (otherwise I really wouldn't
> > be considering learning it!!) - I was more after opinions about
> > using it from people who have some depth of experience
> > with it - pros and cons type of thing.
> >
> > > 2.there is a great book on fusebox called.... 'Fusebox:
mothodology
and
> > > techniques' by steve nelson and craig girard.
> >
> > I know this book is around - I had just read so-so to bad
> > reviews on Amazon.com. You say it's great - why? Any
> > other opinions?
> >
> > Thanks for any feedback,
> >
> > - Gyrus
> >
> >
> >
> 

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