That is anecdotal nonsense.  Any major corporation in need of real techs and
that has a Cisco infrastructure will certainly consider CCIEs very
seriously, yes even above so-called "CS" degree holders without much
experience, for technical lead positions.  I can bring examples that are not
merely "anecdotal."

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Based on anecdotal evidence I've seen on this list before, I can give you
an excellent ball-park figure: zero. You won't get a job if you are "just"
a CCIE. See also NRF's post below.

My hard-earned $0.02. :)

Thanks,

Zsombor

At 02:25 AM 6/24/2003 +0000, Mark W. Odette II wrote:
>That being said... I think the OP would just like a general answer.
>
>Ball-park figures aren't lies, as so long as they are indicated as
>ball-park figures.
>
>It's not a lie if you just simply state/indicate what the average figure
>is that you've seen in your area.
>
>So, if someone can contribute such an answer, let them do so.  I'm sure
>the OP was just trying to get a general idea- Scholar or not.
>
>Geeesh... sometimes it amazes me how simple answers are so hard to come
>by on this list.
>
>No offense intended NRF.
>
>As for myself, I don't know what the going salary/consulting rate is in
>the D/FW area of Texas for a CCIE... So I can't comment on such.
>
>-Mark
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>
>- jvd wrote:
> >
> > I wonder if anybody is going to have anything positive to say
> > about this post?
>
>So basically, you want us to lie, eh?  ;->.
>
>Seriously, CCIE salaries have been down for awhile and any honest
>discussion
>about salaries is going to be necessarily negative.  When something's
>black,
>it would be a lie to call it white.
>
>As far as the original question, so much depends on your experience
>level,
>the geographical location, things like holding a degree (or not).
>Strong
>candidates that have lots of experience, are well educated, and are in
>places can still pull nice salaries.  But I'm also aware of CCIE's
>applying
>for positions that pay less than 30k - and not getting them.  The point
>is
>that the CCIE by itself guarantees nothing.




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