Thanks for the research, Jim. Jim has shown that when a router attempts to 
insert into a ring (MAU) with a different ring number than an 
already-inserted router, it doesn't work. The second router fails to insert 
into the ring. Here's what happens, assuming you don't use Rodgers Moore's 
creative Rube Goldberg approach. &;-)

The Sniffer trace show this:

The two routers inserted fine at first. (Jim must not have made the ring 
number change yet.)

Around frame 792 we see some ring disruption, including some Claim Token 
frames. The Sniffer becomes the active monitor, which can happen. The ring 
disruption was caused by Cisco99B leaving the ring, presumably because Jim 
was starting the reconfiguration.

In frame 801, Cisco99B comes back and does its duplicate address tests. 
Cisco99B gets no responses to these, which is normal. It has a MAC unique 
address.

In frame 806, Cisco99B sends a Ring Initialization frame to the functional 
group address C00000000002 for the Ring Parameter Server.

In frame 808, Cisco927 responds to Cisco99B and includes the information 
that the Local Ring Number is 000A. (10 in decimal.)

Cisco99B goes away then until frame 841 when it makes another feeble 
attempt to get on the ring. Same thing happens. Cisco927 tells Cisco99B 
that the local ring number is 000A, so Cisco99B leaves.

The result on the Cisco99B screen was:

show log
Syslog logging: enabled (0 messages dropped, 0 flushes, 0 overruns)
     Console logging: disabled
     Monitor logging: level debugging, 0 messages logged
     Trap logging: level informational, 27 message lines logged
     Buffer logging: level debugging, 23 messages logged
  --More--
Log Buffer (4096 bytes):

%LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface TokenRing0, changed state 
to down
%LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface TokenRing0, changed state to initializing
%TR-3-BADRNGNUM: Unit 0, ring number (3745) doesn't match established 
number (10).
%LANMGR-4-BADRNGNUM: Ring number mismatch on TokenRing0, shutting down the 
interface.
%LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface TokenRing0, changed state to administratively down
%SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by console
%LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface TokenRing0, changed state to initializing
%TR-3-BADRNGNUM: Unit 0, ring number (3745) doesn't match established 
number (10).
%LANMGR-4-BADRNGNUM: Ring number mismatch on TokenRing0, shutting down the 
interface.
%LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface TokenRing0, changed state to administratively down
%SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by console
ROUTER2# exit

So, now we know! My hypothesis was correct. Thanks, Jim! Good work.

Priscilla

At 02:26 PM 11/10/00, you wrote:
>Priscilla
>         Here is the data.
>         I have included the NG Sniffer trace, a print out of the trace (just
>incase you do not have a token ring version)
>         I also included the log of the second router that had a different
>ring number
>
>         Here is what I did
>
>         Started sniffer
>
>         Set first router to set  local ring number to 10  (using
>source-bridge 10 1 100)
>         set second router to set local ring number to 3745  (using
>source-bridge 3745 1 100)
>
>         Per the router log of the second router the router did not insert
>properly because of the ring number mismatch
>
>                 Jim Fickett


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