Don't be disappointed with your CCNP, that's for sure... Just don't
consider it the end all to getting that job. I started with my company in
June 1999 with an MSCE and CCNA, neither of which I attained with work
experience, one with school, the other self study. I got a job setting up
small LANs for scanning projects, and then doing the scanning along with the
others! Then, moved UP to the help desk!!! Didn't even start there, is
what I am getting at. Got promoted in 2 months to help desk supervisor by
doing a good job (I think), then moved to engineering team in 6 months to
help design our new Cisco network because there were only 2 other CCNAs
around to do it. In June of 2000 I attained my CCNP, with some work
experience on the equipment and our test lab at work. Now I would consider
myself a valuable member of our Network Infrastructure team, but it didn't
happen overnight, and even though I wanted it to happen, I really didn't
expect it to at this company based on where I started.
One more thought. There are those, including a very senior Microsoft
Architect here, who still say I don't have enough experience to go after my
CCIE, that it would not benefit myself, or the company because even if I
attained it, I would not have enough years of experience to back that cert.
Well to him, I said, I am not going to sit around 10 years until I have your
experience, I am going to study everyday, and get involved with every
network problem and design issue I can to gain experience faster in
troubleshooting methods, and seeing various levels of problems. To that he
just shook his head and said with a smile... Kids nowdays.. ;-) By the
way, I am 32. Not really a kid anymore. hehehehe
HTH
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: chris fong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 11:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Disappointed with ccnp!!
I don't know you personally, but I have some
suggestions for you to think about. Don't let that
certification go to your head. If you give the
impression to an employer that you deserve to have a
job because of your CCNP, you will not get hired.
Don't think that you are better than others because of
your CCNP. Also, your personality and attitude that
you show during interviews is critical in landing that
first job. Show that you can be a team player and can
work well and get along with almost anyone. And
lastly, consider other entry level positions, such as
help desk, because you don't have any actual work
experience. Employers don't really consider "lab" as
work experience. Hope this helps.
Good luck,
--- park jeongwoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi group members.
> I need your help.
> I am having a hard time on finding a job.
> I recently got ccnp certification and looking for
> the
> entry level of job for network engineer.
> I am living in San Francisco, and graduated from
> college less than a year ago.
> I have less than a year of network experience that I
> got from school computer lab.
> I had a harder time finding a job before I became
> ccnp. So I studied hard believing that ccnp would
> get
> me somewhere at least as a entry level network
> engineer. Now I am kind of confused and disappointed
> with the fact that I am still having a hard time
> finding a job even with ccnp certification.
> I feel like I need more cisco certifications such as
> ccda, ccdp.
> Would these certification ever help me find job?
> It is really discouraging that cisco certification
> doesn't help me much find a job at this point,
> because
> I am also pursuing ccie too. I have to ask myself
> what
> is the point of getting cisco certification.
> Lots of CCNAs are having a job. Why not ccnp?
>
> Could somebody tell me why it goes like this, and
> what
> I should do?
> Am I looking for wrong job?
>
> I will appreiciate your input.
>
> jeongwoo
>
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