Ah, they tend to underpay most tech positions. But that might not be true
in SAC A Tomato. But it is true in Silicon Valley and SF BA.
But as far as retirement and generally lower stress...well that's a
different story.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Dan West
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 7:12 AM
To: Croyle, James; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Disappointed with ccnp!!
It all depends on who you work for. I'm working for a
company in Sacramento making good pay and I only
currently have my CCNA with two years of hands-on.
Although I do have intensive practical experience with
Unix and Cisco routers.
If you work for the state or your county, you can make
a LOT of dough. They tend to overpay for most
positions. If you work for some smaller companies,
I've found that they will pay you much less for even
more work.... Shop around.
--- "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don't be disappointed with your CCNP, that's for
> sure... Just don't
> consider it the end all to getting that job. I
> started with my company in
> June 1999 with an MSCE and CCNA, neither of which I
> attained with work
> experience, one with school, the other self study.
> I got a job setting up
> small LANs for scanning projects, and then doing the
> scanning along with the
> others! Then, moved UP to the help desk!!! Didn't
> even start there, is
> what I am getting at. Got promoted in 2 months to
> help desk supervisor by
> doing a good job (I think), then moved to
> engineering team in 6 months to
> help design our new Cisco network because there were
> only 2 other CCNAs
> around to do it. In June of 2000 I attained my
> CCNP, with some work
> experience on the equipment and our test lab at
> work. Now I would consider
> myself a valuable member of our Network
> Infrastructure team, but it didn't
> happen overnight, and even though I wanted it to
> happen, I really didn't
> expect it to at this company based on where I
> started.
>
> One more thought. There are those, including a very
> senior Microsoft
> Architect here, who still say I don't have enough
> experience to go after my
> CCIE, that it would not benefit myself, or the
> company because even if I
> attained it, I would not have enough years of
> experience to back that cert.
> Well to him, I said, I am not going to sit around 10
> years until I have your
> experience, I am going to study everyday, and get
> involved with every
> network problem and design issue I can to gain
> experience faster in
> troubleshooting methods, and seeing various levels
> of problems. To that he
> just shook his head and said with a smile... Kids
> nowdays.. ;-) By the
> way, I am 32. Not really a kid anymore. hehehehe
>
> HTH
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chris fong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 11:16 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Disappointed with ccnp!!
>
>
> I don't know you personally, but I have some
> suggestions for you to think about. Don't let that
> certification go to your head. If you give the
> impression to an employer that you deserve to have a
> job because of your CCNP, you will not get hired.
> Don't think that you are better than others because
> of
> your CCNP. Also, your personality and attitude that
> you show during interviews is critical in landing
> that
> first job. Show that you can be a team player and
> can
> work well and get along with almost anyone. And
> lastly, consider other entry level positions, such
> as
> help desk, because you don't have any actual work
> experience. Employers don't really consider "lab" as
> work experience. Hope this helps.
>
> Good luck,
>
>
> --- park jeongwoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi group members.
> > I need your help.
> > I am having a hard time on finding a job.
> > I recently got ccnp certification and looking for
> > the
> > entry level of job for network engineer.
> > I am living in San Francisco, and graduated from
> > college less than a year ago.
> > I have less than a year of network experience that
> I
> > got from school computer lab.
> > I had a harder time finding a job before I became
> > ccnp. So I studied hard believing that ccnp would
> > get
> > me somewhere at least as a entry level network
> > engineer. Now I am kind of confused and
> disappointed
> > with the fact that I am still having a hard time
> > finding a job even with ccnp certification.
> > I feel like I need more cisco certifications such
> as
> > ccda, ccdp.
> > Would these certification ever help me find job?
> > It is really discouraging that cisco certification
> > doesn't help me much find a job at this point,
> > because
> > I am also pursuing ccie too. I have to ask myself
> > what
> > is the point of getting cisco certification.
> > Lots of CCNAs are having a job. Why not ccnp?
> >
> > Could somebody tell me why it goes like this, and
> > what
> > I should do?
> > Am I looking for wrong job?
> >
> > I will appreiciate your input.
> >
> > jeongwoo
> >
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